{"id":37411,"date":"2026-10-03T03:32:50","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:32:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37411"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:32:50","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:32:50","slug":"commentaires-de-juin-2004-archive-jusquau-01-juin-2004","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-de-juin-2004-archive-jusquau-01-juin-2004\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires de Juin 2004 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 01\/juin\/2004"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Nectar (Nectar)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 14h40: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Petit reportage de Sfax, je promet a notre ami Slim Ben Debba que le prochain reportage je lui enverrais des photos des petites poires et peut etre des petits oignons (YAZOUL)si j&rsquo;en trouve. <\/p>\n<p>SFAX LE NOUVEAU PETIT CHENAL BHAR KERKENAH <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX LE NOUVEAU PETIT CHENAL BHAR KERKENAH\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10009.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX LA MUNICIPALITE A L&rsquo;ARCHITECTURE UNIQUE <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX LA MUNICIPALITE A L'ARCHITECTURE UNIQUE\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10010.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX IMMEUBLE SPITERI ET LES EX MAGASINS BEN DEBBA <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX IMMEUBLE SPITERI ET LES EX MAGASINS BEN DEBBA\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10011.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX VUE DE BAB DIWANE COTE INTERIEUR <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX VUE DE BAB DIWANE COTE INTERIEUR\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10012.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX MOSQUEE JEMA EL KEBIR A LA ROMANA <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX MOSQUEE JEMA EL KEBIR A LA ROMANA\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10013.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX PORTE DE BAB EL KASBAH <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX PORTE DE BAB EL KASBAH\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10014.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX VUE DU CAFE LA REGENCE LE PALAIS BEN RAMDANE ET LA MUNICIPALITE <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX VUE DU CAFE LA REGENCE LE PALAIS BEN RAMDANE ET LA MUNICIPALITE\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10015.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX FABRICANT DE BEIGNETS ET DE FRICASSES <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX FABRICANT DE BEIGNETS ET DE FRICASSES\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10016.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX SALLE DES FETES A L&rsquo;ANCIENNE PLACE CARNOT <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX SALLE DES FETES A L'ANCIENNE PLACE CARNOT\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10017.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>SFAX VUE DE LA NOUVELLE POSTE ET DE LA GARE <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SFAX VUE DE LA NOUVELLE POSTE ET DE LA GARE\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10018.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 13h43: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Pour l&rsquo;Agence Sharon\/Breitouna TRIC TRAC. <br \/>Correspondance particuli\u00e8re.PAS DE LIEN RATTACHE.. <\/p>\n<p>Objet : Fw: Les bons comptes  <\/p>\n<p>Les bons comptes de l&rsquo;Imam&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;Imam de Venissieux <\/p>\n<p>Des petits malins se sont amus\u00e9s \u00e0 calculer combien co\u00fbtait \u00e0 la <br \/>collectivit\u00e9 la famille de l&rsquo;imam de V\u00e9nissieux, <br \/>expuls\u00e9 provisoirement par la France apr\u00e8s avoir d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que l&rsquo;on <br \/>pouvait battre sa femme&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>Pour la polygamie, Monsieur Bouziane dit : \u00ab J&rsquo;ai d\u00e9clar\u00e9 \u00e0 la <br \/>Pr\u00e9fecture mon statut. Elle a accept\u00e9 que ma deuxi\u00e8me femme me rejoigne <br \/>en France sans lui d\u00e9livrer de carte de r\u00e9sidence. Mais comme nos <br \/>enfants sont n\u00e9s en France, ils sont Fran\u00e7ais. Du coup m\u00eame si elle n&rsquo;a <br \/>pas de papiers elle ne peut pas \u00eatre expuls\u00e9e \u00bb. \u00ab M\u00eame si je critique <br \/>l&rsquo;Occident je demande toujours aux musulmans qui m&rsquo;\u00e9coutent de respecter <br \/>la loi du pays o\u00f9 il vivent . \u00ab Je suis tr\u00e8s heureux quand je vois des <br \/>fran\u00e7ais se convertir \u00e0 l&rsquo;islam car je sais qu&rsquo;ils sont sur le droit <br \/>chemin\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>1) La deuxi\u00e8me \u00e9pouse n&rsquo;en est pas une . Elle est consid\u00e9r\u00e9e par la <br \/>C.A.F. comme un \u00ab\u00a0parent isol\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb. Elle touche donc l&rsquo;API qui s&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8ve \u00e0 <br \/>707,19 euros (4638,86 francs) pour un parent seul avec 1 enfant auquel <br \/>on ajoute 176,80 euros (1159,73 francs) par enfant suppl\u00e9mentaire. <br \/>M. Bouziane a 16 enfants, 8 pour chaque femme.Mme Bouziane n\u00b02 touche <br \/>donc tous les mois 1944,79 euros soit 12757 francs. <\/p>\n<p>2) Toujours pour ses 8 enfants l&rsquo;\u00e9pouse n\u00b02 touche chaque mois 978,08 <br \/>euros d&rsquo;allocations familiales. <\/p>\n<p>3) Il est probable qu&rsquo;elle ait 3 enfants de moins de trois ans elle a <br \/>donc droit \u00e0 l&rsquo;A.P.J.E. 161,66 euros X 3 soit 484,98 euros <\/p>\n<p>4) Comme \u00ab\u00a0parent isol\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb allocation logement, \u00e0 la louche plus ou moins <br \/>300 euros   <\/p>\n<p>5) Avec 8 enfants elle n&rsquo;a sans doute pas le temps de travailler, <br \/>d&rsquo;autant que son mari d\u00e9clare que la femme musulmane \u00ab\u00a0n&rsquo;a pas le droit <br \/>de travailler avec des hommes parcequ&rsquo;elle pourrait-\u00eatre tent\u00e9e par <br \/>l&rsquo;adult\u00e8re\u00a0\u00bb&#8230; <br \/>RMI pour une personne seule 417,88 euros + 167,15 euros par enfant soit <br \/>au total 1755,08 euros soit 11512,55 francs <\/p>\n<p>6) Elle a au moins 4 enfants en \u00e2ge d&rsquo;\u00eatre scolaris\u00e9s : allocation de <br \/>rentr\u00e9e scolaire 257,61 euros X 4 =1030,44 euros soit un total (en <br \/>mensualisant la rentr\u00e9e scolaire) de5548,80 euros par mois soit 36397,74 <br \/>francs par mois. <\/p>\n<p>7) Madame Bouziane n\u00b0 1 : avec ses 8 enfants 978,08 euros (6415,78 <br \/>francs) d&rsquo;allocations familiales tous les mois <br \/>+ 3 allocations pour jeune enfant 438,98 euros soit 3181 francs + <br \/>allocation logement 300 euros \u00e0 la louche <br \/>+ le RMI pour deux personnes 626,82 euros + 8 enfants 1964,02 euros <br \/>(12883,13 francs) <br \/>+ allocation de rentr\u00e9e scolaire pour 4 enfants1030,44 euros (6759,24 <br \/>francs) <br \/>Au total Mr et Mme Bouziane n\u00b01 peuvent toucher3812,95 euros \/ mois soit <br \/>: 25 011,31 FF <br \/>+Madame Bouziane n\u00b02 peut toucher 5584,80 euros \/ mois soit : 36 633,88 <br \/>FF  <\/p>\n<p>Au total : 61 409,05 Francs mensuels&#8230;  <\/p>\n<p>M\u00e9ditez, pestez, hurlez, . mais surtout continuez \u00e0 bosser dur, car il <br \/>faut payer!!!  <\/p>\n<p>Bon courage  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 13h30: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Bon pour les \u00e9ternuements,  <\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;en connais que trois, en jud\u00e9o arabe. <\/p>\n<p>1\/ TYAICHE&#8230;..QUE TU ES UNE LONGUE VIE. <br \/>3\/ TFOUJ&#8230;&#8230;.QUE TU REUSSISSES. <br \/>2\/ TEFRAH&#8230;&#8230;QUE TU SOIS JOYEUX . <\/p>\n<p>Donc dites \u00e0 votre ami, d&rsquo;\u00e9ternuer que TROIS fois s&rsquo;il peut les deux autres sont gratuites. <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\":)\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/clipart\/happy.gif\"\/> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\":)\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/clipart\/happy.gif\"\/> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\":)\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/clipart\/happy.gif\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Slim (Slim)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 04h56: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Un article que j&rsquo;ai bien aime parlant du pelerinage de Lag Ba&rsquo;omer a la Ghriba de la Hara Sghira de Jerba (je pense qu&rsquo;elle se trompe a props des Levis, je pense qu&rsquo;elle voulait dire les Cohens): <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/savvytraveler.publicradio.org\/show\/features\/2000\/20001027\/tunisia.shtml\">https:\/\/savvytraveler.publicradio.org\/show\/features\/2000\/20001027\/tunisia.shtml<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>This is a warning. If you are Jewish, know someone who is Jewish, or have an affinity for matzo ball soup, the following may come as a surprise. On the island of Djerba, off the coast of Tunisia in North Africa, is perhaps the oldest extant Jewish community in the world. The first settlers were probably the Levites, or priests, who fled from Jerusalem 2,500 years ago when the ancient Temple was destroyed. And today their descendents live smack in the middle of the Muslim world. All year long, the Jews of Djerba lead a private, quiet, very conservative religious life. Men and women pray separately and don&rsquo;t often mingle in public. But for two days a year, all of that changes.  <\/p>\n<p>The narrow, dusty streets of the Jewish section are jammed with jubilant men and women, laughing, talking together, wearing their finest festive attire. Thousands of pilgrims have joined them from Europe, Israel and all over the world to celebrate the holiday of Lag B&rsquo;omer. Morton Arrow, chief rabbi in Stockholm, explains that the holiday occurs on the 33rd day of a solemn 49-day religious cycle during which men traditionally don&rsquo;t shave or cut their hair and there is no dancing or merriment.  <\/p>\n<p>Morton: \u00ab\u00a0There is a legend about Rabbi Akiva&rsquo;s students who became sick in a plague and the plague miraculously broke on the 33rd day, and therefore the 33rd day becomes a celebration. People can get haircuts, swim, and begin to enjoy themselves. They bring out their seven-branched menorah, they dance, they carry on.\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>The Menorah he&rsquo;s talking about is a huge wedding-cake shaped wooden candelabrum that is set on wheels and paraded through the streets of the Jewish village here on Djerba. What is surprising is that the Menorah is adorned like a bride, with long, flowing scarves in bursts of vivid color. As it moves down the street, women with atomizers rush forward to spray the Menorah with exotic, aromatic scents and perfumes. People hug it and kiss it and it seems to be a very feminine presence in a largely patriarchal religion.  <\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m trying to figure out what this all means, when a group of musicians appears and I am literally swept off my feet and pulled along by the throngs of celebrants. They accompany the Menorah through the town and then back to the synagogue, which is called La Ghriba.  <\/p>\n<p>And this is the next surprise: the synagogue is named after a legendary woman named La Ghriba, or \u00ab\u00a0the foreigner,\u00a0\u00bb who is venerated as a saint or goddess. A saint, and a female one at that, in the Jewish religion!  <\/p>\n<p>The amazing thing about La Ghriba is that even though she is adored, no one is really clear about who she was. A group of pilgrims from Paris tries to elucidate.  <\/p>\n<p>Judith translates: \u00ab\u00a0They say that the Ghriba was a girl who was chased into a tunnel. She disappeared. No, wait, she didn&rsquo;t disappear. They found her in the tunnel. Her hand was sticking out from her grave. No, no, they found her intact after a fire.\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>I speak to about 50 people, and a fairly coherent story emerges. The poor Ghriba lived alone and had nobody in the world. One night a fire burned her house down. In the ashes, her dead body was found completely intact, not a burn mark on it. A miracle. So today, people fly from halfway around the world to pay homage to her. They open their hearts and shower her with love, sympathy and devotion. \u00ab\u00a0That&rsquo;s how faith is,\u00a0\u00bb one woman tells me. \u00ab\u00a0You don&rsquo;t have to understand it.\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>Another woman takes me by the hand and pulls me inside the vast, polychrome, ornate Ghriba synagogue. Women offer trays of food which have been prayed over. When you eat, you are blessed.  <\/p>\n<p>The women undulate, making high-pitched, joyous noises. Then I get dragged to the back room of the synagogue. It is small, crowded, dim, and very hot. \u00ab\u00a0Take off your shoes,\u00a0\u00bb someone whispers to me. I kick off my sandals and slide on olive oil that has spilled over from hundreds of lamps. Although western Jews use candles, many eastern or Sephardic Jews light oil lamps instead, as they pray for health, blessings and miracles. I feel like crying. I love the craziness, the spontaneity, the prayers deep from the heart.  <\/p>\n<p>Through the flickering lights, I see women falling to their knees at the back of the room. When I make my way to them, I see that they are crawling into a dark tunnel, holding eggs in their hands. My new French friends tell me what&rsquo;s happening. They&rsquo;re praying that the person whose name is inscribed on the egg will meet the right mate, or are able to have children. The eggs get blessed in the tunnel by the venerated Ghriba, and wishes and prayers come true.  <\/p>\n<p>I never learned about this in Hebrew school! Casting caution to the winds, I put an egg in the tunnel, and I silently mouth a little prayer. When I pull my head out, locals tell me that this is a unique passageway. Supposedly, somewhere deep inside that tunnel, is a very special stone or perhaps two, from King Solomon&rsquo;s Temple in Jerusalem. A local man from Jerba explains:  <\/p>\n<p>Local Man: \u00ab\u00a0Djerba has always been an island refuge since very ancient times. People who fled after the destruction of the Temple, it is very likely they brought over one or a few stones with them.\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>No one seems to know how the stones got here from Jerusalem. Maybe the lonely Ghriba carried the holy stones. Maybe they came on a boat, with the most precious belongings of the priests. An old man whispers to me that the stones flew here by themselves, perhaps carried by angels.  <\/p>\n<p>I step outside of the synagogue and lean against the wall, trying to absorb and understand what I am experiencing. In the distance, I see cars and buses pulling up, with new waves of Jewish pilgrims. I think they come for the camaraderie, the joy, the ability to express their faith and devotion in an open, spontaneous way. And they come because they can come, and this is the last surprise of Djerba. In the middle of an Islamic nation, Jews and Arabs seem to co-exist with mutual respect. Muslims line the streets and participate in the festival. A Moslem man stands next to me, and I ask him if it is true that there is peace between Arabs and Jews here.  <\/p>\n<p>Moslem Man: \u00ab\u00a0We grew up in the same neighborhood. We never asked ourselves these questions. I used to go in their homes and eat. We are friends.\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>With all the hatred and craziness in the world, the exuberant Lag B&rsquo;Omer on Djerba suddenly seems very understandable to me. We have lost the connection to the feminine, the mystical, the superstitious. I wish we could all light oil lamps, share our special customs with our neighbors, have communal experiences, even believe in miracles.  <\/p>\n<p>Wishing you marriage, fertility, and many miracles, wherever you are, this is Judie Fein, in Djerba, for The Savvy Traveler. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Slim (Slim)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 04h14: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Mille merci Nectar: <\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;adore ces photos etant donne que je suis sfaxien et qu&rsquo;elles me rappellent de belles souvenirs. <\/p>\n<p>Mon grandpere avait une presse d&rsquo;huile d&rsquo;olive. Je suis heureux de savoir que la saba cette annee est bonne ce qui est normal etant donne que les pluie de l&rsquo;an dernier et cette annee etaient bonne. <\/p>\n<p>Pour les derbouka, celles avec la peau de raie sont plus raffines et le son est meilleur. la peau de raie est foncee alors que celle d&rsquo;agneau est claire. De toute les facon, les darbouka fabriquees avec la peau de raie sont plus cheres donc faciles a reconnaitre. <\/p>\n<p>Dis-moi, est-ce que vous avez des photos de nos petits poires verts. Aussi, connaissez-vous le Yazoul, c&rsquo;est une sorte d&rsquo;onion sauvage que l&rsquo;on vend au bord de la route en hiver\/printemps. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Email (Email)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 04h26: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Petite question ? <\/p>\n<p>Bonjour !  <\/p>\n<p>Voil\u00e0 j&rsquo;ai lu votre site et plus particuli\u00e8rement le passage sur l&rsquo;\u00e9ternuement et les tunes. <\/p>\n<p>mais j&rsquo;aurai une question ou plut\u00f4t cinq je voudrais savoir ce que l&rsquo;on doit dire (pour un chr\u00e9tien ) apr\u00e8s un premier \u00e9ternuement : normalement c&rsquo;est a tes souhaits <br \/>&#8211; deuxi\u00e8me            : a tes amours ??? je suis d\u00e9j\u00e0 plus sur <br \/>&#8211; troisi\u00e8me           :  ???? <br \/>&#8211; Quatri\u00e8me           :   ???? <br \/>&#8211; Cinqui\u00e8me           :   ???? <br \/>Pourquoi 5 et bien mon amie \u00e9ternue toujours cinq fois et je ne sais plus quoi lui dire apr\u00e8s le deuxi\u00e8me <\/p>\n<p> pouvez vous m&rsquo;aider  <\/p>\n<p>SVP Merci d&rsquo;avance <br \/>&gt;  <br \/>RICHY Aur\u00e9lien  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Email (Email)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 02h44: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"c:\/\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10005.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>Envoye par Avraham<\/p><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Edmond (Edmond)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 02h10: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> LES AMBULANCES DE L&rsquo;UNRWA <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/e.tln0.com\/ame\/archives\/reuters_UN_amblulances_11_may_04.wmv\">https:\/\/e.tln0.com\/ame\/archives\/reuters_UN_amblulances_11_may_04.wmv<\/a> <br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.intelligence.org.il\/eng\/tr\/amb_1_04.htm\">https:\/\/www.intelligence.org.il\/eng\/tr\/amb_1_04.htm<\/a> <br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.intelligence.org.il\/eng\/sib\/5_04\/unrwa.htm\">https:\/\/www.intelligence.org.il\/eng\/sib\/5_04\/unrwa.htm<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Ambulances ou transport de troupes &#8211; Ambulances or troop transportation <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Nectar (Nectar)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 01h23: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Cette ann\u00e9e la recolte des olives en Tunisie etait dix fois plus grande que celle de l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e derniere. <\/p>\n<p>Les oliviers etaient charg\u00e9s au maximum TBARKALLAH. <\/p>\n<p>Savez vous qu&rsquo;un olivier plant\u00e9 dans les regles de l&rsquo;art doit etre plant\u00e9 au centre d&rsquo;une superficie de 5OX50 metres de terrain. <\/p>\n<p>VOICI UN OLIVIER SFAXIEN PHOTOGRAPHIE PRES DE EL-DJEM <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"L'OLIVIER SFAXIEN\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10003.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Nectar (Nectar)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 01h14: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> QUI VEUT DES FIGUES DE BARBARIE? <\/p>\n<p>ATTENTION A CONSOMMER AVEC MODERATION! <\/p>\n<p>RISQUE DE BOUCHON. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"LES FIGUES DE BARBARIE\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10002.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Nectar (Nectar)<\/b> le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 00h47: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> QUI CONNAIT LA DIFFERENCE ENTRE UNE DARBOUKA FAITE AVEC UNE PEAU D&rsquo;AGNEAUX ET UNE DARBOUKA FAITE AVEC UNE PEAU DE RAIES? <\/p>\n<p>Reconnaissez vous sur cette photo si ces darboukas sont en peau d&rsquo;agneau ou en peau de raies? <br \/><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"ARTISANAT DE DERBOUKAS ET TAMIS\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/10000.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Haim (Haim)<\/b> le lundi 31 mai 2004 &#8211; 16h23: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  je recommande a tous d&rsquo;ignorer Hajklouf et Benzarti <br \/>ne pas citer leurs noms ni leu repondre <br \/>ils disparaitront par eux meme <br \/>Merci <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Braham (Braham)<\/b> le lundi 31 mai 2004 &#8211; 17h13: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Est-ce un reve?  <\/p>\n<p> Voila un site qui va la boucler a plusieurs des mercenaires du clavier qui mettent de la bile dans l&rsquo;HARISSA, sement la discorde et repandent la haine. Ce beau site est: <\/p>\n<p>           arabsforisrael.com <\/p>\n<p>   Si vous ouvrez ce site, lisez aussi les rubriques en haut de la page, il y a de quoi reprendre de l&rsquo;espoir en un bel avenir entre cousins. <\/p>\n<p>  \u00ab\u00a0W h o  a r e  w e ?   <br \/>We are A r a b s and  M o s l e m s  who believe\u2026 <\/p>\n<p>We can support the State of Israel and the Jewish religion and still treasure our Arab and Islamic culture.  <br \/>There are many Jews and Israelis who freely express compassion and support for the Palestinians.  It is time that we Arabs express reciprocal compassion and support.  <br \/>The existence of the State of Israel is a fact that should be accepted by the Arab world.  <br \/>Israel is a legitimate state that is not a threat but an asset in the Middle East.  <br \/>Every major World religion has a center of gravity. Islam has Mecca, and Judaism  certainly deserves its presence in Israel and Jerusalem.  <br \/>Diversity should not be a virtue only in the USA, but should be encouraged around the world. We support a diverse Middle East with protection for human rights, respect and equality under the law to all minorities including Jews and Christians.  <br \/>Palestinians have several options but are deprived from exercising them because of their leadership, the Arab League and surrounding Arab and Moslem countries who do not want to see Palestinians live in harmony with Israel.  <br \/>If Palestinians want democracy they can start practicing it now.  <br \/>We stand firmly against suicide\/homicide terrorism as a form of Jihad.  <br \/>We are appalled by the horrific act of terror against the USA on 9\/11\/2001.  <br \/>Arab media should end the incitement and misinformation that result in Arab street rage and violence.  <br \/>We are eager to see major reformation in how Islam is taught and channeled to bring out the best in Moslems and contribute to the uplifting of the human spirit and advancement of civilization.  <br \/>We believe in freedom to choose or change one\u2019s Religion.  <br \/>We cherish and acknowledge the beauty and contributions of the Middle East culture, but recognize that the Arab\/Moslem world is in desperate need of constructive self-criticism and reform. <\/p>\n<p> W e  a r e  N O T : <\/p>\n<p>Anti-Islam, Anti-Arab, confrontational or hateful. <\/p>\n<p>ARABS AND MOSLEMS WHO WISH TO POST THEIR VIEWS IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL CAN DO SO BY EMAILING US. WE WILL THEN POST THEM ANONYMOUSLY, IF THEY WISH. \u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>Please send all correspondence to: <\/p>\n<p> nonie@arabsforisrael.com <\/p>\n<p>See also:    www.noniedarwish.com <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Nectar (Nectar)<\/b> le lundi 31 mai 2004 &#8211; 16h44: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Voici une preuve irrefutable des temps r\u00e9volus ou Juifs et musulmans de Tunisie s&rsquo;associaient pour exporter les dattes de Tunisie vers la France. <\/p>\n<p>YAKHASSRA AL EL EYEMETTE. <\/p>\n<p>ETIQUETTE RARE DES ANNEES 1900 (collection Nectar) <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"ETIQUETTE RARE DES ANNEES 1900 collection Nectar.\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/9995.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Nectar (Nectar) le mardi 01 juin 2004 &#8211; 14h40: Petit reportage de Sfax, je promet a notre ami Slim Ben Debba que le prochain reportage je lui enverrais des photos des petites poires et peut etre des petits oignons (YAZOUL)si j&rsquo;en trouve. 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