{"id":37464,"date":"2026-10-03T03:32:54","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:32:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37464"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:32:54","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:32:54","slug":"commentaires-de-novembre-2006-archive-jusquau-03-novembre-2006","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-de-novembre-2006-archive-jusquau-03-novembre-2006\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires de Novembre 2006 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 03\/novembre\/2006"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Messaoud (Messaoud)<\/b> le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 &#8211; 10h57: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Le ghetto     . <br \/>comme cet espace est un forum; j&rsquo;avais soulev\u00e9 le probleme non pas de la croyance et de la foi (je suis croyant et j&rsquo;ai la foi ,ceci pour rassurer certain) mais la maniere un peu simpliste et meme demagogique pour d\u00e9montrer  ces points  <br \/>mais aujourd&rsquo;hui un probl\u00e8me se pose a moi &#8211; LE GHETTO &#8211; et c&rsquo;est la! le sujet dont je voudrais avoir des interventions <br \/>alors concernant le ghetto on se doit tout d&rsquo;abord de s&rsquo;en construire un personnel que j&rsquo;apelle  le ghetto de conscience  <br \/>mais nous autres juifs  l&rsquo;avons tous connu et pour certains meme y avoir vecu mais je pensais qu&rsquo;un ghetto ne pouvait exister qu&rsquo;en dehors d&rsquo;Israel et ma probl\u00e9matique actuelle est de se  dire; peut il exister un ghetto en terre d&rsquo;Isra\u00e8l? <br \/>pourquoi cela ? et bien , en reaction aux manifestations et contre manifestations que cela soul\u00e8ve  au sujet de la Gay Pride qui devrait se tenir a Jerusalem? <br \/>attention , je ne dit pas que je suis pour ou contre la tenue de cette Gay pride ; mais c&rsquo;est cette ghettoisation par certain pour se preserver de l&rsquo;impur et des formes que cela entrainent. voila j&rsquo;espere avoir exprime ma question et attendre dans un debat courtois les reponses  <br \/>merci a tous  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Cacouboulou (Cacouboulou)<\/b> le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 &#8211; 10h45: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  En mati\u00e8re de religion le d\u00e9bat est sans fins, et en particulier dans le Juda\u00efsme, o\u00f9 il est m\u00eame recommand\u00e9 de d\u00e9battre de tout, \u00e7a n&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;\u00e0 ce prix que l&rsquo;esprit s&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8ve, et que la foi se forge. <\/p>\n<p>Les rituels et la symbolique, ne sont pas des fins en soi, il n&rsquo;existent que comme outil de travail. Les consid\u00e9rer autrement, confinerait l&rsquo;adorateur, \u00e0 une idol\u00e2trie de la proc\u00e9dure, qui ne ferait qu&rsquo;enfermer le fid\u00e8le dans une bulle ritu\u00e9lique. <\/p>\n<p>A la mani\u00e8re d&rsquo;une science sans conscience&#8230; <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Henri (Henri)<\/b> le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 &#8211; 07h53: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Cher Emile, <\/p>\n<p>Comme je l&rsquo;ai deja dit, ce forum n&rsquo;est pas un champ de bataille, tant que le debat reste respectueux, il me semble que nos echanges de point de vue sont positives. <br \/>Et tu le dis si souvent, il y a les petites fleches. <br \/>Chalom et brakha. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 &#8211; 04h32: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Dans le debat sur la religion j&rsquo;ai trouve le meilleur argument est de Shalom et sa derniere phrase qui dit: Le debat est clos.  Hazak Veematz!  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Meyer (Meyer)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 23h56: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Un marocain gagne le premier prix (12.000$) du concours de caricatures sur la Shoah organis\u00e9 en Iran. <\/p>\n<p>Le deuxi\u00e8me prix (8.000$) est gagn\u00e9 conjointement par un fran\u00e7ais et par un br\u00e9silien. <\/p>\n<p>Moroccan wins first place in Iran Holocaust cartoon contest  <\/p>\n<p>By The Associated Press  <\/p>\n<p>Last update &#8211; 22:37 01\/11\/2006   <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/hasen\/spages\/782695.html\">http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/hasen\/spages\/782695.html<\/a> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 21h40: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Henri, <\/p>\n<p>Pourquoi 613 ????? <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Viviane (Viviane)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 19h01: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Chers cor\u00e9ligionaires francophones de \u00ab\u00a0l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger\u00a0\u00bb <br \/>N&rsquo;\u00e9sitez plus \u00e0 venir vivre \u00e0 Netanya. C&rsquo;est de la folie. Vous ne trouverez cela nulle part ailleurs, m\u00eame pas dans ce pays qui ressemble \u00e0 un hexagone. Vous voyez ce que je veux dire? <br \/>Il existe \u00e0 Netanya deux magnifiques biblioth\u00e8ques de langue fran\u00e7aise celles de l&rsquo;Unifan et de la WIZO qui ont une r\u00e9serve d&rsquo;au moins trois mille livres. Ne faites pas comme moi. Ne chargez pas votre contenair de livres. Le th\u00e9\u00e2tre francophone est en pleine expansion, les improvisations se succ\u00e8dent. Les guides, les D.J. les excursions, les conf\u00e9rences et j&rsquo;en passe. Et l&rsquo;h\u00e9breu? me direz-vous, cela viendra&#8230; Savlanout!!! Viviane <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 16h39: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Pour ceux qui comprennent l&rsquo;Hebreu: <\/p>\n<p>Chaim (Chet, Yud, Yud, Mem) ze: <\/p>\n<p>Chiloni ve <\/p>\n<p>Masorti ve Snhei <\/p>\n<p>Yehudim baEmtsa <\/p>\n<p>(Chet: Chiloni, Mem: Masorti, Yud X 2: Yeduhi X 2)  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 16h34: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Cher Henri, <\/p>\n<p>Sans prendre parti dans les discussions, il faut tout de meme observer qu&rsquo;on se rend au supermarche pour acheter de la nourriture, car on est bien oblige de se nourrir pour survivre, mais qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;est pas oblige de suivre la religion (au pied de la lettre, ou en dilletante) pour survivre. <\/p>\n<p>Qui a dit \u00a0\u00bb Kache lihiot Yehudi \u00a0\u00bb ?  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Henri (Henri)<\/b> le mercredi 01 novembre 2006 &#8211; 14h13: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Tout le monde cherche et demande le Shalom, il ne peut etre rachaa. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Messaoud (Messaoud) le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 &#8211; 10h57: Le ghetto . comme cet espace est un forum; j&rsquo;avais soulev\u00e9 le probleme non pas de la croyance et de la foi (je suis croyant et j&rsquo;ai la foi ,ceci pour rassurer certain) mais la maniere un peu simpliste et meme demagogique pour d\u00e9montrer ces&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":23305,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[497],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37464","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-commentaires"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Commentaires de Novembre 2006 : Archive jusqu&#039;au 03\/novembre\/2006 | HARISSA.COM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Par Messaoud (Messaoud) le jeudi 02 novembre 2006 - 10h57: Le ghetto . comme cet espace est un forum; 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