{"id":37651,"date":"2026-10-03T03:33:10","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37651"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:33:10","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:10","slug":"commentaires-doctobre-2004-archive-jusquau-31-octobre-2004-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-doctobre-2004-archive-jusquau-31-octobre-2004-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires d&rsquo;Octobre 2004 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 31\/octobre\/2004-2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Michka (Michka)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h55: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"la Turquie Europeenne\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/11945.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h29: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Mountadi BREITOU au PTB.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h08: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"LE VOL D ARAFAT\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/11943.jpg\"\/><\/div>\n<p>LE CHOEUR DES 144 VIERGES&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;&#8230;Nous t&rsquo;attendons avec impatience PATRON&#8230;..Surtout que tu viens   en ENTIER&#8230;.! On commen\u00e7ait \u00e0 en avoir un peu marre de trouver que des miettes&#8230;!&rsquo; <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 09h44: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>FLASH INFO PRECHE. ORIENT.6h 33. <\/p>\n<p>EVASION SPECTACULAIRE CE MATIN DE LA PRISON DE LA SANTE DE L ENNEMI PUBLIC N\u00b0 1 BREITOU&#8230;..<\/p><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>A_Soued (A_Soued)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 06h39: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Chers amis <br \/>La semaine qui vient sera \u00e0 la fois r\u00e9v\u00e9latrice et d\u00e9cisive. <br \/>Terreur: Ben Laden se la joue, il veut appara\u00eetre comme l&rsquo;arbitre des \u00e9lections <br \/>am\u00e9ricaines. Kerry est tomb\u00e9 dans le panneau, en pr\u00eachant pour sa paroisse, au lieu <br \/>de profiter de l&rsquo;occasion pour montrer sa dimension pr\u00e9sidentielle. L&rsquo;\u00e9lecteur <br \/>am\u00e9ricain s&rsquo;en souviendra. <br \/>Arafat: il me rappelle le titre d&rsquo;un roman policier de la s\u00e9rie noire d&rsquo;antan \u00ab\u00a0les <br \/>salauds ne meurent jamais\u00a0\u00bb. Il a organis\u00e9 le \u00ab\u00a0chaos\u00a0\u00bb apr\u00e8s son d\u00e9part, comme il a <br \/>organis\u00e9 le chaos au Moyen Orient durant sa vie. La France a eu le tort immense de <br \/>s&rsquo;en m\u00ealer, encore une fois, au lieu de jouer franchement la carte, in\u00e9luctable \u00e0 <br \/>terme, de la d\u00e9mocratie au Moyen Orient. Mais les int\u00e9r\u00eats financiers \u00e0 court terme <br \/>sont peut-\u00eatre plus all\u00e9chants&#8230; <br \/>Irak: l&rsquo;impatience devant certaines r\u00e9ticences irakiennes \u00e0 admettre la pr\u00e9\u00e9minence <br \/>de la modernit\u00e9 <br \/>occidentale et la d\u00e9mocratie devrait \u00eatre contenue. Les dirigeants arabes ou <br \/>islamiques autocratiques ont abandonn\u00e9 la confrontation directe avec l&rsquo;Occident et <br \/>pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent la nouvelle arme de la subversion, qu&rsquo;elle soit par le verbe (incitation \u00e0 <br \/>la haine, menaces, chantage) ou l&rsquo;explosif (m\u00eame Kadhafi a dit \u00ab\u00a0apprenons \u00e0 nos <br \/>femmes \u00e0 pi\u00e9ger les poussettes et les poup\u00e9es des enfants&#8230;, c&rsquo;est cela l&rsquo;avenir de <br \/>notre lutte&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb). Isra\u00ebl a mis 4 ans pour contenir une terreur pourtant famili\u00e8re. <br \/>Les Etats-Unis mettront le temps qu&rsquo;il faut pour venir \u00e0 bout de la terreur <br \/>irakienne, afghane ou internationale! Au lieu de les critiquer, l&rsquo;Europe, et en <br \/>particulier la France, devrait vite choisir son camp. <\/p>\n<p>Albert SOUED &#8211; www.chez.com\/soued , <br \/> le site des Symboles et des R\u00eaves <br \/>voir aussi le site politique www.nuitdorient.com <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Mailroom (Mailroom)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 06h36: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Monsieur le Webmaster. <\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est par un pur hasard que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9couvert votre site, en cherchant pour des amis, <br \/>la traduction arabe du mot \u00ab\u00a0Poutargue\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0Boutargue\u00a0\u00bb.  <\/p>\n<p>Inutile de vous dire le bien que cela nous a occasionn\u00e9. <\/p>\n<p>Ces commentaires divers, francs, spontan\u00e9s, que nous avons lus, confirment bien le <br \/>caract\u00e8re chaleureux et soupe au lait du Tunisien de toute confession. <\/p>\n<p>Mon oncle qui habitait avenue de Madrid \u00e0 Tunis, qui parle toujours l&rsquo;Arabe <br \/>dialectal, retrouve dans une de vos rubriques, les conversations qu&rsquo;il \u00e9changeait <br \/>avec ses parents, morts et enterr\u00e9s au cimeti\u00e8re du Borgel pr\u00e8s de Tunis. <\/p>\n<p>Cette  rubrique qui traite du \u00ab\u00a0Jud\u00e9o-arabe\u00a0\u00bb, au demeurant fort int\u00e9ressante, semble <br \/>tomber en d\u00e9su\u00e9tude, c&rsquo;est  bien dommage. <\/p>\n<p>La politique a pris le dessus sur la m\u00e9moire des juifs de Tunisie, pour laquelle ce <br \/>site semble avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9\u00e9. <\/p>\n<p>Une information que nous a livr\u00e9 mon oncle et \u00e0 laquelle nous ne pouvons y croire. <\/p>\n<p>\u00c9tait-il vrai que chez les isra\u00e9lites, il y avait deux cimeti\u00e8res, l&rsquo;un pour les <br \/>natifs de Tunis et l&rsquo;autre pour ceux dits \u00ab\u00a0Livournais\u00a0\u00bb qui semblent avoir \u00e9migr\u00e9 <br \/>d&rsquo;Italie, alors qu&rsquo;ils sont tous de rite s\u00e9farade? <\/p>\n<p>Je vous avoue que cela nous a fort surpris. <\/p>\n<p>Si cela se confirmait, quelqu&rsquo;un pourrait-il nous en donner la raison ? <\/p>\n<p>Maurice Baran\u00e8s.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 05h34: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  A Chicagoan\u00b9s Perspective: Bush offers vision, not vacillation <br \/>By Richard Baehr <\/p>\n<p>In years past, a Jewish Republican might have behaved a bit sheepishly before letting a friend know his or her political preference. There is certainly no reason for such concern anymore. There are now many Jewish Republicans (myself included), and quite a few Jewish Democrats (such as former New York City Mayor Ed Koch), who will support President Bush for reelection this year, and we have many good reasons for doing so.  <br \/>One can certainly disagree with the president on some issues and still find powerful reasons to support him. I find it hard to imagine that a supporter of either candidate would agree with every position of their candidate or a political party.  <\/p>\n<p>The Democratic Party, to which many American Jews continue to swear their often unthinking allegiance, has now become a party full of zealots who are unfriendly to Israel and weak in addressing the tough challenges abroad posed by terrorists and the states that harbor them. Michael Moore, a vicious hater of Israel and an opponent of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, is the Democratic Party&rsquo;s latest poster boy. Moore has argued that there is no terrorist threat to America, and that America itself brought on the attacks of 9\/11. At the Democratic National Convention, Moore was invited by former President Jimmy Carter to share his presidential box.  <\/p>\n<p>On every resolution that comes before Congress that is supportive of the U.S.- Israel relationship, the no votes are overwhelmingly from Democrats. In the past year, a Democratic senator from South Carolina and a Democratic congressman from Virginia have made public remarks attacking Jewish power in America. Cynthia McKinney, a radical leftist and Israel hater, will soon be the Democratic congresswoman from the Atlanta suburbs. McKinney is \u00ab\u00a0famous\u00a0\u00bb for accusing President Bush of allowing 9\/11 to occur for political gain.  <\/p>\n<p>The anti-war marches that attack President Bush also attack Israel as the new South Africa, and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as Adolf Hitler. For the left, the two lines of attack go together. Perhaps most threatening is the chorus of anti-war advocates who loudly blame the Iraq war on the Jews. In years past, the loony-tunes and haters were on the right. Now they are largely on the left and among Democrats and those who support John Kerry.  <\/p>\n<p>The Democratic National Committee, John Kerry, and John Edwards have all been silent on these attacks on Israel and the Jews. The Democrats like the fervor of the anti-Bush movement, so they accept the hatred of Israel that goes along with it. The DNC even hosted a showing of \u00ab\u00a0Fahrenheit 9\/11,\u00a0\u00bb and Democratic members of Congress were seen applauding the filmmaker, who has called for America to supply the same weapons to the Palestinians as Israel now possesses, so the Palestinian terrorists can have a fair fight against Israel.  <\/p>\n<p>President Bush, on the other hand, has had a remarkable record of support for Israel. This support has come when Israel was isolated internationally as never before. It is easy to be pro- Israel when Yitzhak Rabin is prime minister. It is another thing to withstand the pressure President Bush has faced from our European \u00ab\u00a0allies\u00a0\u00bb and the Arab world to abandon or strong- arm Israel and Ariel Sharon. President Bush had the U.S. delegation walk out of the U.N.&rsquo;s Durban hate-fest against Israel. He had our U.N. representative veto more anti-Israel resolutions in one term than any other president before him. The eighth such veto was cast this week.  <\/p>\n<p>Bush has refused to meet or negotiate with Yassar Arafat, a lifelong terrorist, who successfully conned President Clinton and his diplomatic team for almost eight years during the Oslo process that he was a partner for peace. In his 1997 book, John Kerry wrote about Arafat&rsquo;s transformation from \u00ab\u00a0outlaw\u00a0\u00bb to \u00ab\u00a0statesman.\u00a0\u00bb Bush figured out what Arafat was all about from the beginning of his term and marginalized him. Bush also condemned the International Court of Justice decision on Israel&rsquo;s security barrier and prevented the Security Council from acting to enforce the court&rsquo;s unjust decision.  <\/p>\n<p>Bush&rsquo;s steadfast support for Israel is paying dividends, as has his steadfastness in the war against Islamic terrorism. The U.N. just passed a resolution demanding Syria leave Lebanon. This is unheard of for the U.N. Even the European nations are now beginning to pressure Iran on its nuclear program. Libya voluntarily gave up its WMD programs. In Afghanistan and Iraq, the Americans, at great sacrifice and cost, have fought to introduce an open political process and the chance for political and social freedom for the people living in these repressive Arab and Muslim regimes, which have bred the killers of 9\/11.  <\/p>\n<p>Before the President sent our forces to overthrow the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, over 10,000 terrorists a year from Al Qaida and their affiliated terrorist groups received weapons and explosives training in that county. Now there is no safe sanctuary for this activity in any country in the world. Pakistan, a nuclear-armed Muslim majority state, is now our ally, rather than an ally of Osama bin Laden, assuming he is even still alive.  <\/p>\n<p>Many critics of the president focus on the failure so far to find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, supposedly the only justification for our effort there. These critics seem to have forgotten, or ignored the fact that Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism, provided a home for Abu Nidal and Al Zarqawi, the world&rsquo;s current beheading champion, and donated $25,000 to each of the families of suicide bombers in Israel. Iraq had invaded two of its neighbors, used WMD on its own citizens and massacred hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. If Kosovo was worth saving, wasn&rsquo;t Iraq?  <\/p>\n<p>The weapons inspection team in Iraq has concluded that if sanctions against Iraq were allowed to expire, Saddam could have reconstituted his weapons program in short order. There is still a very strong suspicion that the weapons Saddam may have held onto after the first Gulf War (which John Kerry opposed) were moved to Syria in the days before the American attacks commenced. Can anyone seriously question that America is now fighting terrorists and Al Qaida in Iraq, who are desperately attempting to prevent a representative government from being established there? Al Qaida has grown through the resentment of many Muslims with the autocratic, repressive regimes in which they live. Democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq offers a brighter alternative to a few hundred million Muslims.  <\/p>\n<p>On the big issues, President Bush has a vision and the toughness and spine to carry it through, despite withering attacks and hostility from the Democrats, the press, and some nations that pretend to be our allies. The Democrats have nominated a candidate who can&rsquo;t stick to a position for a week, and sometimes a day. John Kerry has a 20-year Senate record without distinction. Can anyone name a Kerry initiative in any area-foreign or domestic? What confidence can we have that Senator Kerry can lead the country?  <\/p>\n<p>A long career in the Senate requires managing a staff of about 15 people. Running the national government and a country at war is a lot different, and a lot tougher. There is a reason why for almost half a century Americans have consistently elected former governors, but not senators, as their presidents.  <\/p>\n<p>The choice for Jews and for all Americans is leadership versus weakness. It is vision versus vacillation. It is experience versus inexperience. This is an easy choice to make.  <\/p>\n<p>Richard Baehr is a Chicago management consultant in the health care field. Return to top.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 04h13: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Michka, vous et moi n&rsquo;\u00e9changeons presque pas de commentaires entre nous, mais sachez que je vous lis \u00e0 chaque fois que vous \u00e9crivez quelque chose.  Je peux en d\u00e9duire de vos \u00e9crits et \u00e0 votre m\u00e9rite que vous d\u00e9fendez la cause juive et isra\u00eblienne de tout coeur.  Il faut vraiment avoir grandi dans d&rsquo;autres milieux pour ne pas aimer son peuple. <\/p>\n<p>A mon \u00e2ge j&rsquo;essaye de m&rsquo;ins\u00e9rer parmi les jeunes d&rsquo;aujourd&rsquo;hui en \u00e9crivant dans ce site et d&rsquo;autres.  Heureusement que notre \u00e2ge n&rsquo;est pas \u00e9tal\u00e9 car cela r\u00e9duit certaines frictions de g\u00e9n\u00e9rations.  Je suis tr\u00e8s conscient des diff\u00e9rences de conceptions qui existent entre une g\u00e9n\u00e9ration et l&rsquo;autre.  Je partage vivement avec vous tous cette \u00e9poque contemporaine. Evidemment que j&rsquo;aurais pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9 agir en contribuant \u00e0 des t\u00e9moignages de mon temps qu&rsquo;\u00e0 me soucier des conflits actuels. Mais la vie est tellement belle que j&rsquo;essaye de m&rsquo;adapter m\u00eame si parfois je dois faire face \u00e0 des critiques qui d\u00e9rivent de conceptions et de perceptions divergentes. <\/p>\n<p>Excusez cette longue entr\u00e9e en mati\u00e8re, c&rsquo;est pour vous dire tout simplement que je partage vos sentiments pour ce qui concerne la vie d&rsquo;Israel et des juifs, m\u00eame si parfois je diff\u00e8re de style et d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat.  Une chose est certaine, je d\u00e9fends la cause r\u00e9publicaine, quand elle est justifi\u00e9e  Je consid\u00e8re cette \u00e9lection trop importante pour ne pas se lier au bastion r\u00e9publicain. Je suis confiant malgr\u00e9 toutes les promesses les  accusations non fond\u00e9es de Kerry et de son parti que Bush l&#8217;emportera malgr\u00e9 les sondages. H\u00e9las ce n&rsquo;est pas la position des juifs am\u00e9ricains.  Bush ne peut esp\u00e9rer avoir les voix des juifs avec lui, m\u00eame apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 le premier pr\u00e9sident qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 le meilleur et infl\u00e9chissable alli\u00e9 d&rsquo;Israel. Continuez \u00e0 \u00e9crire en sachant que je vous lis avec plaisir.  Chavoua Tov.. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Michka (Michka)<\/b> le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 00h00: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  J&rsquo;esp\u00e8re que les Am\u00e9ricains ne c\u00e8deront pas \u00e0 la manipulation. Il doit rester un bastion fort face \u00e0 une Europe qui a d\u00e9j\u00e0 fl\u00e9chi en vendant son \u00e2me au diable.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Michka (Michka)<\/b> le samedi 30 octobre 2004 &#8211; 23h47: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Habile, le message de Ben Laden. Vous pouvez le lire dans son int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 sur le site Proche-orient info. <\/p>\n<p>A la veille de l&rsquo;\u00e9lection, il vient semer le doute. Grave pour celui qui l&rsquo;interpr\u00e8te au premier degr\u00e9. Souvenons-nous Madrid.  <\/p>\n<p>Que nous dit-il en substance, que c&rsquo;est \u00e0 cause des tours d\u00e9truites au Liban et \u00e0 cause de ses fr\u00e8res souffrant en Palestine qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;est d\u00e9cid\u00e9 au dernier moment \u00e0 attaquer les Twin Towers, afin de r\u00e9parer l&rsquo;injustice faite \u00e0 ses chers fr\u00e8res par le tandem Am\u00e9rique-Israel. <\/p>\n<p>Je ne sais pas comment ce message est percu aux U.S. Que les Harissiens vivant l\u00e0-bas nous enseignent de leurs commentaires. <\/p>\n<p>Finalit\u00e9 du message, c&rsquo;est de la faute des Juifs tout \u00e7\u00e0.  <\/p>\n<p>En effet, pour que le monde aille mieux, il faut se d\u00e9barasser des Juifs et le jardin d&rsquo;Eden r\u00e8gnera sur la terre&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.  <\/p>\n<p>Vieille lithanie, on connait la chanson&#8230;.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Citron (Citron)<\/b> le samedi 30 octobre 2004 &#8211; 23h21: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  il y a des gens qu&rsquo;on oublira jamais! <\/p>\n<p>AFP | 30.10.04 | 21h43  <\/p>\n<p>Plusieurs dizaines de milliers de personnes \u00e9taient rassembl\u00e9es samedi soir \u00e0 Tel-Aviv pour marquer le neuvi\u00e8me anniversaire de l&rsquo;assassinat de l&rsquo;ancien Premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Yitzhak Rabin, a constat\u00e9 un journaliste de l&rsquo;AFP.\u00a0\u00bbOui \u00e0 la paix, non \u00e0 la violence\u00a0\u00bb ou \u00ab\u00a0Avons-nous compris la le\u00e7on?\u00a0\u00bb pouvait-on lire sur des banderoles dispos\u00e9es autour de la place Rabin, entre des portraits de l&rsquo;ancien Premier ministre.Rabin a \u00e9t\u00e9 abattu \u00e0 bout portant sur cette m\u00eame place lors d&rsquo;une manifestation de soutien \u00e0 la paix le 4 novembre 1995 par un juif extr\u00e9miste oppos\u00e9 aux accords d&rsquo;Oslo (1993).Les manifestants, parmi lesquels beaucoup de jeunes, \u00e9taient prot\u00e9g\u00e9s par un fort d\u00e9ploiement de policiers.Aucune personnalit\u00e9 politique n&rsquo;avait \u00e9t\u00e9 invit\u00e9e \u00e0 la tribune, les organisateurs ayant voulu donner \u00e0 cette comm\u00e9moration un caract\u00e8re unitaire autour du th\u00e8me central de d\u00e9fense de la d\u00e9mocratie, face aux menaces de \u00ab\u00a0guerre fratricide\u00a0\u00bb provenant de l&rsquo;extr\u00eame droite et du lobby des colons.Mercredi, lors de la c\u00e9r\u00e9monie officielle marquant le neuvi\u00e8me anniversaire de la mort de Rabin (selon le calendrier h\u00e9bra\u00efque), le Premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Ariel Sharon a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que le pays ne devait \u00ab\u00a0jamais oublier la le\u00e7on\u00a0\u00bb de cet assassinat.M. Sharon est l&rsquo;objet de mesures de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 draconiennes des services de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 isra\u00e9liens qui prennent tr\u00e8s au s\u00e9rieux les menaces de mort prof\u00e9r\u00e9es contre lui dans les milieux d&rsquo;extr\u00eame droite farouchement oppos\u00e9s \u00e0 son plan de retrait unilat\u00e9ral de la bande de Gaza, dont le principe a \u00e9t\u00e9 approuv\u00e9 mardi par le gouvernement isra\u00e9lien. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le samedi 30 octobre 2004 &#8211; 23h28: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Albert , Il avait vote contre la guerre du Golf pour liberer le Kuwait.  Et maintenat a chaque fois il dit moi j&rsquo;ai un plan. \u00ab\u00a0Marekou ou Mabledou\u00a0\u00bb et sa femme elle est aussi africaine comme nous.  Elle est du Mozambique. Elle veut etre secretaire des affaires etrangers a la place de Powell.  Elle pourra comme ca se rapprocher tu sais de qui?  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Michka (Michka) le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h55: Par Albert (Albert) le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h29: Mountadi BREITOU au PTB. Par Albert (Albert) le dimanche 31 octobre 2004 &#8211; 15h08: LE CHOEUR DES 144 VIERGES&#8230; &lsquo;&#8230;Nous t&rsquo;attendons avec impatience PATRON&#8230;..Surtout que tu viens en ENTIER&#8230;.! On commen\u00e7ait \u00e0 en avoir un&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":50011,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[497],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37651","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-commentaires"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37651","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37651"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37651\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":46074,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37651\/revisions\/46074"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/50011"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37651"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37651"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37651"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}