{"id":37838,"date":"2026-10-03T03:33:25","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37838"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:33:25","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:25","slug":"commentaires-fevrier-2007-archive-jusquau-01-fevrier-2007-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-fevrier-2007-archive-jusquau-01-fevrier-2007-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires Fevrier 2007 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 01\/fevrier\/2007-1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bekhor (Bekhor)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 16h16: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Excusez moi chers harissiens, mais je persiste et signe, les chinois ne mangent pas de mouches. <\/p>\n<p>Mais c&rsquo;est possible qu&rsquo;il y a une erreur dans le texte et l&rsquo;auteur a peut \u00eatre par erreur, marqu\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0mouche\u00a0\u00bb au lieu de \u00ab cafard. \u00bb <\/p>\n<p>Pour preuve je reviens de PEKIN ou j&rsquo;ai pass\u00e9 les dix premiers jours de Janvier 2007, et j&rsquo;ai pu photographier les brochettes en tous genres propos\u00e9s dans les grandes art\u00e8res de PEKIN, mais aussi des autres grandes villes. <\/p>\n<p>Vous constaterez qu&rsquo;il est propos\u00e9 des brochettes de: GROS SCORPIONS NOIRS <br \/>DES SCORPIONS JAUNES (ceux la, leurs piqures sont mortelles) <br \/>DES CAFARDS DE VILLES <br \/>DES CAFARDS DE CAMPAGNE <br \/>DES CAFARD VOLANTS <br \/>DES SCARABES <br \/>DES GROS VERS DE TERRES, (d&rsquo;elevages et bien gras, il parait que \u00e7a croque et que \u00e7a gicle dans la bouche) <br \/>DES VERMINES, <br \/>DES SAUTERELLES, <br \/> Etc.etc. <br \/>Les brochettes ne sont pas tr\u00e8s ch\u00e8res leurs prix varient entre 15 et 25 Yuans environ de 2 a 4.5 US$ <\/p>\n<p>Si il y a des amateurs, je propose un voyage en chine dans le cadre d&rsquo;harissa.com, pour vous d\u00e9guster ces d\u00e9lices de Chine. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine1\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13031.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine2\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13032.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine3\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13033.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine4\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13034.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine5\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13035.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine6\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13036.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine7\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13037.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine8\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13038.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine9\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13039.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"chine10\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13040.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Toufiq (Toufiq)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 16h12: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  esperons que bazooka ne prendra pas mouche de cette correction , qui pourrait lui donner le cafard..  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Lapid (Lapid)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 16h03: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> <b>Le professeur Aumann d\u00e9nonce le \u2018post-sionisme\u2019<\/b> <br \/>Alexandre Yudkewicz <br \/>dimanche 28 janvier 2007 &#8211; 23:58  <\/p>\n<p>Le professeur Aumann, prix Nobel d\u2019\u00e9conomie, a surpris ses auditeurs, \u00e0 l\u2019occasion de la Conf\u00e9rence d\u2019Herzlyia, en n\u2019h\u00e9sitant pas \u00e0 d\u00e9noncer l\u2019id\u00e9ologie du \u2018post-sionisme\u2019 comme \u00e9tant plus dangereuse encore pour l\u2019existence de l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl que les menaces du nucl\u00e9aire iranien. Explications. <\/p>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s avoir soulign\u00e9 la menace constitu\u00e9e par une attaque nucl\u00e9aire venue de T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, et plus encore, les dangers d\u2019une prolif\u00e9ration d\u2019armes nucl\u00e9aires aux mains de groupes terroristes arabes, le professeur Auman, du Centre d\u2019Etude de la Rationalit\u00e9 de l\u2019universit\u00e9 H\u00e9braique, s\u2019en est pris au \u2018post-sionisme\u2019. Selon le prix Nobel d\u2019\u00e9conomie, en effet, l\u2019id\u00e9ologie post-sioniste pose au peuple juif une menace existentielle encore plus grande. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abLe plus grand de tous les dangers qui nous menacent,\u00bb a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 le professeur, \u00abne vient pas de l\u2019Iran ni des groupes terroristes, il ne vient pas de l\u2019ext\u00e9rieur : il vient de chez nous. Notre ennemi, c\u2019est nous-m\u00eame.\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>En guise de pr\u00e9ambule \u00e0 son explication, le professeur a rappel\u00e9 combien la \u2018Th\u00e9orie des Jeux\u2019, qui lui a valu son prix Nobel et \u00e0 laquelle il a consacr\u00e9 sa vie, est un domaine de recherche tr\u00e8s s\u00e9rieux. \u00ab Le c\u0153ur du probl\u00e8me dans la th\u00e9orie des jeux, c\u2019est la motivation\u00bb, a-t-il d\u00e9clar\u00e9. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abNous motiver nous-m\u00eame est la chose la plus importante qui soit, et la chose dont nous manquons le plus. Or sans motivation, nous ne tiendrons pas. Que faisons nous ici ? Pourquoi sommes nous l\u00e0 ? A quoi aspirons nous ici ? Nous sommes ici parce que nous sommes Juifs, nous sommes sionistes, parce que nous avons un lien tr\u00e8s ancien avec ce pays ; nous aspirons \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser notre r\u00eave vieux de 2000 ans, celui de revenir vivre libres, ici, \u00e0 Sion, \u00e0 J\u00e9rusalem. Sans int\u00e9rioriser cela, nous ne durerons pas. Si nous n\u2019int\u00e9riorisons pas cela, nous ne pourrons pas rester ici, le \u2018post-sionisme\u2019 sera notre fin\u2026\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>Le laur\u00e9at du Nobel d\u2019\u00e9conomie, qui fut un fervent opposant au d\u00e9mant\u00e8lement du Goush Katif, a alors parl\u00e9 du Premier ministre : \u00abil y a 6 mois, \u00e0 P\u00e9tra, en Jordanie,\u00bb a rappel\u00e9 Aumann, \u00able Premier ministre a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que nous \u00e9tions fatigu\u00e9. Il avait raison. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9lu par le peuple, et il a exprim\u00e9 les sentiments du peuple. Nous sommes comme un alpiniste qui se trouve dans une temp\u00eate de neige, \u00e0 la nuit tomb\u00e9e\u2026 Il a froid, il est fatigu\u00e9, il voudrait s\u2019endormir. Mais si il s\u2019endort, il g\u00e8lera et mourra\u2026 Nous sommes en grand danger, parce que nous sommes fatigu\u00e9s. \u00bb <\/p>\n<p>Le professeur Aumann a alors mis en garde son auditoire : \u00abje vais me permettre de dire des choses peu populaires, des propos qui ne sont pas \u00e0 la mode\u2026.\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>\u00abNotre qu\u00eate \u00e9perdue de la paix joue contre nous. Elle nous \u00e9loigne de la paix et met en danger notre existence. Churchill disait : \u2018si vous voulez la paix, pr\u00e9parez la guerre\u2019. La pr\u00e9paration inclus certes la pr\u00e9paration mat\u00e9rielle, une bonne arm\u00e9e, un armement \u00e0 la pointe, mais, avant tout, il s\u2019agit de se pr\u00e9parer spirituellement, il s\u2019agit d\u2019\u00eatre pr\u00eat \u00e0 faire la guerre.\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>\u00abLa Feuille de Route, les retraits unilat\u00e9raux, les gestes de bonne volont\u00e9, les renoncements, etc., tout cela n\u2019apporte pas la paix. Au contraire, cela nous am\u00e8ne la guerre, comme nous l\u2019avons vu l\u2019\u00e9t\u00e9 dernier. Car ces attitudes conciliantes \u00e9mettent le signal clair que nous sommes fatigu\u00e9s, que nous n\u2019avons plus de force morale, que nous n\u2019avons pas le temps pour nous, que nous r\u00e9clamons une pause. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abTout cela ne fait qu\u2019accro\u00eetre l\u2019app\u00e9tit des arabes. Cela ne fait que les encourager \u00e0 faire un peu plus pression sur nous, \u00e0 demander plus, et \u00e0 ne c\u00e9der sur rien. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abCes propos se fondent sur de simples consid\u00e9rations th\u00e9oriques, mais aussi sur un raisonnement logique. Mais il ne s\u2019agit pas seulement de th\u00e9orie : cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 prouv\u00e9, encore et encore, depuis des milliers d\u2019ann\u00e9es. Les renoncements entra\u00eenent des guerres, la d\u00e9termination et la pr\u00e9paration \u00e0 la guerre apportent la paix. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abMesdames et messieurs\u00bb, a conclu le professeur Aumann, \u00abnous devons dire \u00e0 nos \u2018cousins\u2019 (les arabes, comme on les appelle parfois famili\u00e8rement en h\u00e9breu), que nous sommes ici pour y rester. Nous ne bougerons pas. Nous avons le temps, nous avons la patience : comprenez cela et int\u00e9riorisez le. <\/p>\n<p>\u00abNon seulement devrions nous dire cela \u00e0 nos \u2018cousins\u2019, mais nous devrions le ressentir en nous m\u00eame. Cela, et seulement cela, pourra g\u00e9n\u00e9rer la paix. Nous pourrions vraiment vivre en paix avec nos voisins, mais \u00e0 la seule condition qu\u2019ils comprennent et int\u00e9riorisent que l\u2019Etat d\u2019Isra\u00ebl est l\u00e0 pour durer, \u00e0 jamais.\u00bb <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Tun (Tun)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 13h37: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Mala blague ya Bazooka tres drole; (mnin jebtou ha dhmar). Enfin vous auriez du rajouter le tunisien qui est encore plus intelligent et qui aurait fait un scandale pour avoir un autre cafe tout en gardant le premier. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 14h11: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Pour etre precis et exact sur la condamnation a l&rsquo;encontre de Haim Ramon: <\/p>\n<p>Il s&rsquo;agit d'\u00a0\u00bbOffense forcee\u00a0\u00bb et non de \u00ab\u00a0Harcelement\u00a0\u00bb (comme indique juste avant), l&rsquo;offense etant punie plus severement que le harcelement. <\/p>\n<p>Pour ceux qui parlent hebreu, ils a ete condamne pour \u00ab\u00a0Maasse Megoune beKoach\u00a0\u00bb (et non pour \u00ab\u00a0Hatrada Minit\u00a0\u00bb).  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 13h08: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Pour ceux\/celles qui suivent les tenants et aboutissants des hommes politiques israeliens accuses d&rsquo;harcelement sexuel (voire meme plus): <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;ex ministre Haim Ramon vient d&rsquo;etre condamne a l&rsquo;unanimite par un college de 3 juges pour harcelement sexuel, dans le cadre de ses fonctions de ministre, suite a un proces de plusieurs mois. <\/p>\n<p>La suite au prochain episode &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>D&rsquo;ici la, une petite blague recue aujourd&rsquo;hui pour egayer votre journee: <\/p>\n<p>Une mouche tombe dans une tasse de cafe: <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; l&rsquo;anglais  &#8211; jette le cafe et s&rsquo;en va <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; l&rsquo;americain &#8211; enleve la mouche et boit le cafe <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; le chinois &#8211; mange la mouche et jette le cafe <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; le japonais boit le cafe avec la mouche, un supplement gratuit <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; l&rsquo;israelien &#8211; vend le cafe a l&rsquo;americain, la mouche au chinois et avec l&rsquo;argent achete une nouvelle tasse de cafe <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; le palestinien &#8211; accuse Israel d&rsquo;agression pour avoir mis la mouche dans son cafe, appelle a l&rsquo;aide l&rsquo;ONU, demande un pret a  la Communaute Europeenne pour acheter une nouvelle tasse de cafe, utilise l&rsquo;argent pour acheter des explosifs, puis fait sauter la cafeteria ou l&rsquo;anglais, l&rsquo;americain, le chinois et le japonais s&rsquo;evertuaient a expliquer a l&rsquo;israelien qu&rsquo;il a avait ete trop agressif&#8230;  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Toufiq (Toufiq)<\/b> le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 00h23: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  je viens de recevoir le livre de Baba Emile, commande chez \u00ab\u00a0harmatan\u00a0\u00bb.je ne suis qu&rsquo;a la page 26 <br \/>mais grace a l&rsquo;harmatan on verse une petite larme a temps. <br \/>de temps en temps.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>A_Soued (A_Soued)<\/b> le mardi 30 janvier 2007 &#8211; 19h25: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  COURIR APRES DES CHIMERES <\/p>\n<p>Par Evelyn Gordon, journaliste et chroniqueur dans le Jerusalem Post <\/p>\n<p>Paru au Jerusalem Post, janvier 2007 <\/p>\n<p>Traduit par Albert Soued, www.chez.com\/soued\/conf.htm pour www.nuitdorient.com <\/p>\n<p>Tous les dirigeants du monde sont en train de se d\u00e9mener pour raviver les n\u00e9gociations Isra\u00e9lo-Palestiniennes. La Chanceli\u00e8re allemande Angela Merkel qui assume la pr\u00e9sidence de l&rsquo;Union Europ\u00e9enne (EU) et du G8 s&#8217;emploie \u00e0 en faire une priorit\u00e9 et elle a persuad\u00e9 le Pr\u00e9sident G Bush de ressusciter le Quartet comme premier pas. La secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;Etat Condoleeza Rice qui vient de terminer une tourn\u00e9e au Moyen Orient a promis de consacrer la majeure partie du temps qui lui reste, soit deux ans, \u00e0 cette cause. Le pr\u00e9sident Fran\u00e7ais J Chirac pousse vers une conf\u00e9rence internationale. Et j&rsquo;en passe\u2026. <\/p>\n<p>Cependant, ce qui reste obscur c&rsquo;est ce que ces dirigeants esp\u00e8rent obtenir, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 peu encourageante du terrain du c\u00f4t\u00e9 Palestinien. <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; L&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 Palestinienne (AP) est contr\u00f4l\u00e9e par le Hamas qui ne rate pas une occasion publique pour demander l&rsquo;\u00e9radication d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl. Les dirigeants occidentaux pensent contourner ce probl\u00e8me en s&rsquo;adressant au pr\u00e9sident de l&rsquo;AP, Mahmoud Abbas, dont la faction, le Fatah, a perdu les \u00e9lections l&rsquo;an dernier. C&rsquo;est comme si en Isra\u00ebl, on s&rsquo;adressait \u00e0 l&rsquo;opposant Yossi Beilin pour n\u00e9gocier au nom d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, ou si en Grande Bretagne, on demandait \u00e0 David Cameron, chef de l&rsquo;opposition conservatrice de signer un trait\u00e9. On peut parvenir \u00e0 un accord (ou non), il serait sans aucune valeur, car inapplicable. <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; m\u00eame les exigences minimales du Fatah dit \u00ab\u00a0mod\u00e9r\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb sont inacceptables pour tout gouvernement isra\u00e9lien. Ainsi par exemple, la semaine derni\u00e8re, dans un discours important comm\u00e9morant la fondation du Fatah, Abbas a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que le \u00ab\u00a0droit du retour\u00a0\u00bb des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s palestiniens en Isra\u00ebl \u00e9tait un droit non n\u00e9gociable. Il a rejet\u00e9 toute tentative de les installer dans d&rsquo;autres pays. Un politicien important du Fatah, Marwan Barghouti, l&rsquo;a confirm\u00e9 aussit\u00f4t (NdT de sa ge\u00f4le isra\u00e9lienne) disant que le minimum que les Palestiniens peuvent accepter est un Etat <\/p>\n<p>dans les fronti\u00e8res d&rsquo;avant 1967, avec comme capitale J\u00e9rusalem, la lib\u00e9ration de tous les prisonniers et le retour des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s en Isra\u00ebl. <\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Le droit de retour\u00a0\u00bb est un  euph\u00e9misme pour dire que l&rsquo;\u00e9tat juif sera \u00e9limin\u00e9 sur le plan d\u00e9mographique, ce que rejette l&rsquo;Isra\u00e9lien le plus \u00ab\u00a0colombe\u00a0\u00bb. Comme tous les dirigeants Palestiniens annoncent \u00e0 leur public depuis 13 ans que tout accord final inclurait cette clause, aucun d&rsquo;eux ne peut signer un accord sans cette clause, \u00e0 moins d&rsquo;accepter d&rsquo;\u00eatre crucifi\u00e9. <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; les luttes intestines violentes entre le Hamas au pouvoir et le Fatah, repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par le pr\u00e9sident Abbas, ont min\u00e9 toute leur cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9 aupr\u00e8s du peuple. Cette cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9 \u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 branlante, chaque faction au pouvoir pr\u00e9f\u00e9rant accaparer les \u00ab\u00a0restes\u00a0\u00bb plut\u00f4t que de s&rsquo;occuper du bien \u00eatre g\u00e9n\u00e9ral. Ainsi sous les 2 r\u00e9gimes le syst\u00e8me de sant\u00e9 a re\u00e7u seulement 7% du budget de l&rsquo;AP, alors que les services de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 abondamment fournis de loyalistes de chaque faction accapparait pr\u00e8s du quart du budget. <\/p>\n<p>De m\u00eame, alors que le premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Ehoud Olmert acceptait de d\u00e9bloquer 100 millions $ \u00e0 Abbas pour soulager l\u00e9 d\u00e9tresse du peuple, les assistants d&rsquo;Abbas d\u00e9clarait au New York Times que l&rsquo;argent serait surtout utilis\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0pour renforcer le mouvement Fatah et payer les milices loyales\u00a0\u00bb. Ce type de comportement a amen\u00e9 les Palestiniens l&rsquo;an dernier \u00e0 chasser le Fatah et il est en train d&rsquo;entamer la popularit\u00e9 du Hamas. <\/p>\n<p>De toute mani\u00e8re ce manque de cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9 fait que tout trait\u00e9 acceptable par Isra\u00ebl, sign\u00e9 par un dirigeant palestinien, serait refus\u00e9 par sa population. <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; tout accord final est suppos\u00e9 apporter \u00e0 Isra\u00ebl un seul b\u00e9n\u00e9fice, la paix. Or depuis que le \u00ab\u00a0processus de paix\u00a0\u00bb a commenc\u00e9, la terreur s&rsquo;est amplifi\u00e9e. Dans les 2,5 ans qui ont suivi les accords d&rsquo;Oslo de 1993, les terroristes Palestiniens ont tu\u00e9 plus d&rsquo;Isra\u00e9liens que lors de la d\u00e9cennie qui a pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9. Lors des 6 derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es, ils ont tu\u00e9 plus d&rsquo;Isra\u00e9liens que pendant le demi-si\u00e8cle qui a pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9\u2026! <\/p>\n<p>De m\u00eame, l&rsquo;\u00e9vacuation de Gaza en ao\u00fbt 2005 a entrain\u00e9 le lancement de 1200 roquettes sur le territoire m\u00e9ridional d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, \u00e0 partir de la zone \u00e9vacu\u00e9e; ce nombre est \u00e0 comparer aux 300 roquettes lanc\u00e9es en 2004. Tout cela en d\u00e9pit d&rsquo;accords sign\u00e9s dans lesquels les Palestiniens s&rsquo;engageaient \u00e0 arr\u00eater la terreur, suivis de nombreux autres accords verbaux de cessez-le-feu. Au cours du dernier cessez-le-feu par exemple, le sud d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl a subi des douzaines de missiles. <\/p>\n<p>De plus, m\u00eame les dirigeants dits \u00ab\u00a0mod\u00e9r\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb n&rsquo;h\u00e9sitent plus \u00e0 encourager ces tirs. Lors d&rsquo;un discours la semaine derni\u00e8re, Abbas dit aux Palestiniens que \u00ab\u00a0leurs fusils devraient \u00eatre dirig\u00e9s contre l&rsquo;occupation isra\u00e9lienne\u00a0\u00bb, (NdT plut\u00f4t que contre leurs fr\u00e8res). Il a appuy\u00e9 \u00e9galement le \u00ab\u00a0document des prisonniers\u00a0\u00bb qui appelle explicitement la poursuite de la terreur contre Isra\u00ebl et il a toujours pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;userait pas de la force pour arr\u00eater le terrorisme contre Isra\u00ebl. <\/p>\n<p>Etant donn\u00e9 la fr\u00e9quence record de promesses non tenues, l&rsquo;\u00e9norme contrebande d&rsquo;armes par le Hamas tout autant que le Fatah, l&rsquo;appel \u00e0 l&rsquo;utilisation de ces armes contre Isra\u00ebl par les dirigeants des 2 factions, tout accord \u00e0 venir entrainerait la m\u00eame violence et la m\u00eame terreur. Comme on ne voit aucun indice prouvant le contraire, tout Isra\u00e9lien serait r\u00e9ticent \u00e0 accepter des concessions territoriales qui mettraient les villes isra\u00e9liennes sous la menace des missiles et m\u00eame des tirs de fusils de l&rsquo;AP. En \u00e9change de quoi? De vagues promesses qu&rsquo;on ne peut contr\u00f4ler. <\/p>\n<p>Alors raviver des n\u00e9gociations, pour quoi faire? Il n&rsquo;y a personne \u00e0 qui parler et rien de quoi parler. <\/p>\n<p>En contraste, un \u00e9ditorial r\u00e9cent du Jerusalem Post a montr\u00e9 qu&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl \u00e9tait pr\u00eat \u00e0 signer un trait\u00e9 de paix, malgr\u00e9 les promesses non tenues. A l&rsquo;oppos\u00e9 des instances palestiniennes qui n&rsquo;ont jamais pr\u00e9par\u00e9 leur population \u00e0 renoncer au \u00ab\u00a0droit au retour\u00a0\u00bb, les chefs de tous les partis isra\u00e9liens pendant les 13 ann\u00e9es \u00e9coul\u00e9es ont toujours parl\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0concessions territoriales douloureuses mais n\u00e9cessaires\u00a0\u00bb, m\u00eame \u00e0 J\u00e9rusalem. Aujourd&rsquo;hui la majorit\u00e9 des isra\u00e9liens sont d&rsquo;accord, alors qu&rsquo;il y a treize on ne trouvait pas de majorit\u00e9 dans ce sens. De m\u00eame, alors que les Palestiniens n&rsquo;ont jamais voulu stopper le terrorisme, Isra\u00ebl a montr\u00e9 sa bonne volont\u00e9 en \u00e9vacuant des implantations. <\/p>\n<p>Dans ces conditions raviver des n\u00e9gociations ce n&rsquo;est pas seulement illusoire mais aussi nuisible, car, en cr\u00e9ant l&rsquo;illusion d&rsquo;un momentum, la communaut\u00e9 internationale va g\u00e9n\u00e9rer des espoirs et des d\u00e9sillusions, tout en n\u00e9gligeant d&rsquo;autres voies, plus lentes mais plus adapt\u00e9es dont l&rsquo;auteur vous parlera lors d&rsquo;un prochain article. Il n&rsquo;y a pas de miracle, que seul un messie peut r\u00e9aliser. <\/p>\n<p>Il y a des pr\u00e9alables \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser plus s\u00e9rieux que des bavardages sans issue. <\/p>\n<p>PANTING AFTER A PHANTOM <\/p>\n<p>By EVELYN GORDON-jp- Jan. 17, 2007  <\/p>\n<p>World leaders are panting to restart Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who assumed the presidency of both the European Union and the G-8 this month, pledged to make this a priority, and immediately persuaded US President George Bush to revive the international Quartet as a first step. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who was here this week, has vowed to devote substantial time to this issue over the next two years. French President Jacques Chirac is pushing an international conference. And so forth. <\/p>\n<p>What remains obscure, however, is what these leaders hope to accomplish, given the unpromising reality on the Palestinian side:  <\/p>\n<p>\u2022 The Palestinian Authority is controlled by Hamas, which openly advocates Israel&rsquo;s eradication. World leaders suggest circumventing this problem by dealing instead with PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, whose Fatah faction lost last year&rsquo;s elections. That makes about as much sense as having opposition MK Yossi Beilin negotiate a treaty on Israel&rsquo;s behalf, or opposition MP David Cameron negotiate a treaty on Britain&rsquo;s behalf. You might (or might not) reach an agreement, but it will be meaningless, because the signatory has no authority to implement it.  <\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Even the \u00ab\u00a0moderate\u00a0\u00bb Fatah&rsquo;s self-proclaimed minimum demands are unacceptable to any Israeli government. Just last Thursday, for instance, in a major speech commemorating Fatah&rsquo;s founding, Abbas declared that Palestinian refugees&rsquo; \u00ab\u00a0right of return\u00a0\u00bb to Israel is \u00ab\u00a0nonnegotiable\u00a0\u00bb and rejected \u00ab\u00a0any attempt to resettle the refugees in other countries.\u00a0\u00bb Fatah&rsquo;s most popular politician, Marwan Barghouti, echoed this on Saturday, saying that \u00ab\u00a0the least\u00a0\u00bb Palestinians can accept is a state in the pre-1967 borders, Jerusalem as its capital, freedom for all prisoners and the refugees&rsquo; return to Israel.  <\/p>\n<p>Since the \u00ab\u00a0right of return\u00a0\u00bb is an euphemism for eliminating the Jewish state demographically, even the most dovish Israelis reject it. Yet since Palestinian leaders, including \u00ab\u00a0moderates\u00a0\u00bb like Abbas, have told their publics for 13 years that any final-status deal will include it, no Palestinian leader is currently capable of signing an agreement that does not &#8211; his public would crucify him.  <\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Violent Hamas-Fatah infighting has further undermined both factions&rsquo; credibility among ordinary Palestinians. And this credibility was already shaky, since both factions, while in power, preferred divvying up the spoils to promoting the general welfare. Under both Fatah and Hamas, for instance, the health system received only 7 percent of the PA&rsquo;s budget, while the security services, which each faction packed with its own loyalists, received 24.3 percent.  <\/p>\n<p>Similarly, after Prime Minister Ehud Olmert agreed to release $100 million to Abbas to alleviate humanitarian distress, Abbas aides told The New York Times that the money would mainly be used \u00ab\u00a0to strengthen his Fatah movement and pay salaries to Fatah loyalists.\u00a0\u00bb This behavior spurred Palestinians to oust Fatah last year and is now damaging Hamas&rsquo;s popularity. Yet this lack of credibility makes it even less likely that Abbas, or any other Palestinian leader, could sell any agreement acceptable to Israel to his own people.  <\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Any final-status agreement is supposed to grant Israel one main benefit: peace. Yet in fact, ever since the \u00ab\u00a0peace process\u00a0\u00bb began, Palestinian terror has soared: In the two and a half years following the 1993 Oslo Accords, Palestinian terrorists killed more Israelis than in the entire preceding decade; over the last six years, they killed more Israelis than during the entire preceding half-century. <\/p>\n<p>SIMILARLY, the August 2005 evacuation of the Gaza Strip resulted in some 1,200 rockets being fired at southern Israel from Gaza last year (according to Military Intelligence); this compares to about 300 rocket launches at Israel and the Gaza settlements combined in 2004, the last full year before the pullout. All this occurred despite no fewer than five signed agreements in which the Palestinians pledged to halt terror, plus repeated verbal cease-fire agreements. During the current \u00ab\u00a0cease-fire,\u00a0\u00bb for instance, southern Israel has suffered dozens of rocket strikes.  <\/p>\n<p>Nor do even \u00ab\u00a0moderate\u00a0\u00bb Palestinian leaders hesitate to encourage this. In last Thursday&rsquo;s speech, for example, Abbas told Palestinians that their \u00ab\u00a0rifles should be directed against the [Israeli] occupation.\u00a0\u00bb He has also endorsed the Prisoners&rsquo; Document, which explicitly calls for continued terrorism against Israel, and has repeatedly said that he will not use force to stop anti-Israel terror.  <\/p>\n<p>Given the record of broken promises, the massive arms smuggling by both Hamas and Fatah and the urgings of both factions&rsquo; leaders that these arms be used against Israel, any future agreement could easily produce a similar wave of anti-Israel terror. Thus, absent concrete evidence to the contrary, many Israelis will be reluctant to agree to major territorial concessions, which would put Israel&rsquo;s largest cities within rocket and even rifle range of the PA, in exchange for yet another unenforceable promise.  <\/p>\n<p>Given all this, it is hard to see what \u00ab\u00a0reviving Israeli-Palestinian negotiations\u00a0\u00bb could accomplish. From Israel&rsquo;s perspective, there is nobody to talk with and nothing to talk about.  <\/p>\n<p>In contrast, as The Jerusalem Post noted in Monday&rsquo;s editorial, Israel &#8211; despite broken promises on issues ranging from evacuating outposts to removing checkpoints &#8211; has proven that on the big issues, it is ready to deal. Unlike Palestinian leaders&rsquo; refusal to prepare their public for conceding the \u00ab\u00a0right of return,\u00a0\u00bb for instance, leaders of every major Israeli party have told their public for 13 years that sweeping territorial concessions, including in Jerusalem, will be necessary; as a result, most Israelis now support such concessions, whereas 13 years ago, a majority opposed them. Similarly, whereas the Palestinians have repeatedly failed to prove their willingness to halt terror, the disengagement conclusively proved Israel&rsquo;s willingness to evacuate settlements.  <\/p>\n<p>Under these circumstances, \u00ab\u00a0reviving negotiations\u00a0\u00bb would be not merely pointless, but detrimental &#8211; because by trying to create an illusion of momentum, the international community is not only generating expectations that can only be disappointed, it is also neglecting alternative steps that could genuinely help.  <\/p>\n<p>These steps, which I will outline next week, would not produce an instant solution; only the messiah could do that. But they would lay necessary groundwork for a solution down the road. And that seems far more productive than mere talk for talk&rsquo;s sake. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Meyer (Meyer)<\/b> le mardi 30 janvier 2007 &#8211; 14h18: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Un citoyen tunisien devient le premier Arabe propos\u00e9 comme \u00ab\u00a0Juste parmi les Nations\u00a0\u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Khaled Abdelwahhab a cach\u00e9 en 1943 la famille d&rsquo;Annie Boukhris \u00e0 Mahdia. <\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/hasen\/spages\/819505.html <\/p>\n<p>30\/01\/2007   <\/p>\n<p>Tunisian becomes first Arab nominated as &lsquo;righteous gentile&rsquo; <\/p>\n<p>By Associated Press <\/p>\n<p>At the height of the Second World War, Khaled Abdelwahhab hid a group of Jews on his farm in a small Tunisian town, saving them from the Nazi troops occupying the north African nation. <\/p>\n<p>More than six decades later, Abdelwahhab has become the first Arab nominated for recognition as Righteous Among the Nations by Yad Vashem, Israel&rsquo;s official Holocaust memorial. The honor is bestowed on non-Jews who risked their lives to save Jews from Nazi persecution. <\/p>\n<p>The nomination of Abdelwahhab, who died in 1997, has reopened a little-known chapter of the Holocaust, one that unfolded in the Arab countries of north Africa. <\/p>\n<p>Abdelwahhab was nominated by Robert Satloff, director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a U.S. think tank. <\/p>\n<p>Satloff said that after the Sept. 11 attacks, he moved to Morocco to research what happened in Arab lands during the Holocaust in hopes of countering Holocaust denial in the Arab world and tempering some of the sentiments he thought helped pave the way for the attacks. <\/p>\n<p>I asked, did any Arabs save Jews in the Holocaust? Satloff said. If they did, these are stories about which Arabs could be proud. It would also entail accepting the context, because it would mean there was something to save Jews from. <\/p>\n<p>That search led Satloff to Abdelwahhab, the cosmopolitan son of an aristocratic family who was 32 when German troops arrived in Tunisia in November 1942. The north African nation was home to some 100,000 Jews at the time. <\/p>\n<p>According to Yad Vashem, the Germans instituted anti-Semitic policies in Tunisia, imposing fines on Jews, forcing many to wear Star of David badges and confiscating property. More than 5,000 Jews were sent to forced labor camps, where 46 are known to have died. Around 160 Tunisian Jews who happened to be in France were dispatched to European death camps. Most Tunisians, according to the material compiled by Yad Vashem, did not attempt to intervene. <\/p>\n<p>Abdelwahhab, an amateur archaeologist and architect with something of a hedonistic bent, served as an interlocutor between the population of the coastal town of Mahdia and the German occupation forces, Satloff said. He was also a country farmer, a sometime Tunisian civil servant and an avid traveler. <\/p>\n<p>When he heard one evening that German officers were planning to rape Odette Boukris, a local Jewish woman, he gathered her family and several other Jewish families in Mahdia &#8211; a total of around two dozen people &#8211; and took them to his farm outside town. He hid them for four months, until the German occupation ended. <\/p>\n<p>Khaled is the finest example, though not the only one, of an Arab who saved Jews from persecution during the German occupation, Satloff said. <\/p>\n<p>Satloff first heard Abdelwahhab&rsquo;s story several years ago from Anny Boukris, a 71-year-old resident of a Los Angeles suburb. An 11-year-old in 1943, Boukris is Odette Boukris&rsquo; daughter and was also hidden by Abdelwahhab. <\/p>\n<p>Satloff traveled to Mahdia and talked to Boukris&rsquo; childhood friends, who confirmed the story. Just weeks after Boukris recorded her 83-page testimony, she passed away. <\/p>\n<p>Abdelwahhab still has to be approved by the Yad Vashem commission that grants the honor. Since the war, Yad Vashem has conferred the status on 21,700 people, including some 60 Muslims from the Balkans. But no Arab had ever been nominated. <\/p>\n<p>The commission will decide based on the strict criteria for recognizing the Righteous Among the Nations. We can&rsquo;t speculate on what the outcome will be, said Estee Yaari, a spokeswoman for Yad Vashem. <\/p>\n<p>Tunisia was the only north African country to come under direct German rule. Nearby Morocco and Algeria were governed by the pro-German collaborators of Vichy France. <\/p>\n<p>Bruce Maddy-Weitzman, a north Africa expert at Tel Aviv University, said that Morocco&rsquo;s king at the time, Mohammed V, intervened to protect Jews in his country. But the story in Tunisia was quite different, because there was a direct occupation by the German army, he said. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Victor (Victor)<\/b> le mardi 30 janvier 2007 &#8211; 14h08: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Meeting contre la menace iranienne \u00e0 la Mutualit\u00e9  <br \/>30\/01\/07  <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Th\u00e8me: Iran   <\/p>\n<p>A l\u2019appel du CRIF, Mardi 13 f\u00e9vrier 2007, \u00e0 19h30 <\/p>\n<p>TOUS A LA MUTUALITE CONTRE LA MENACE IRANIENNE  <\/p>\n<p>Fran\u00e7ois BAYROU, Nicole BORVO, Bertrand DELANOE, Fran\u00e7ois LEOTARD, Christian PONCELET, S\u00e9gol\u00e8ne ROYAL, Nicolas SARKOZY ont donn\u00e9 leur accord de principe pour participer \u00e0 ce meeting.  <\/p>\n<p>Mutualit\u00e9, 24, rue St-Victor 75005 PARIS (M\u00b0 : Maubert-Mutualit\u00e9)  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Bekhor (Bekhor) le mercredi 31 janvier 2007 &#8211; 16h16: Excusez moi chers harissiens, mais je persiste et signe, les chinois ne mangent pas de mouches. 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