{"id":37936,"date":"2026-10-03T03:33:33","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37936"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:33:33","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:33","slug":"commentaires-fevrier-2007-archive-jusquau-20-fevrier-2007-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-fevrier-2007-archive-jusquau-20-fevrier-2007-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires Fevrier 2007 : Archive jusqu’au 20\/f\u00e9vrier\/2007-1"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par A_Soued (A_Soued)<\/b> le lundi 19 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 08h25: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

LA HONTE DEVANT LA DIASPORA <\/p>\n

Par David Forman <\/p>\n

Publi\u00e9 par le Jerusalem Post du 15 f\u00e9vrier 2007 <\/p>\n

Traduction par Artus pour www.nuitdorient.com, le titre \u00e9tant de la traduction <\/p>\n

(titre original \u00ab\u00a0la honte en Am\u00e9rique\u00a0\u00bb) <\/p>\n

L’image du Juif dans le monde et la perception du Juda\u00efsme sont aujourd’hui form\u00e9es par ce que nous faisons, nous Isra\u00e9liens dans notre pays. Isra\u00ebl est devenu la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence par laquelle le monde juge les Juifs. Par cons\u00e9quent une grande responsabilit\u00e9 p\u00e8se sur les \u00e9paules de ceux qui vivent dans ce pays, car nous avons toujours clam\u00e9 qu’Isra\u00ebl se trouve l\u00e0 o\u00f9 un Juif agit. <\/p>\n

Nous avons constamment d\u00e9montr\u00e9 pourquoi Isra\u00ebl est au Centre du monde Juif. Nous envoyons nos troupes \u00e0 Entebbe pour lib\u00e9rer des otages Juifs, nous nous pr\u00e9cipitons \u00e0 Addis Abeba en pleine guerre pour secourir des Juifs \u00e9thiopiens et nous mettons tout en \u0153uvre pour absorber des centaines de milliers de Juifs Russes. Et nous sommes fiers devant le peuple juif. <\/p>\n

Et m\u00eame quand nous fl\u00e9chissons, ternissant l’image positive que nous voulons donner aux yeux de la communaut\u00e9 juive de la Diaspora, nous avons toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 capables d’\u00e9carter la critique, en nous comparant favorablement par rapport aux autres nations du monde. En effet les critiques ne manquent pas, venant de nos fr\u00e8res et s\u0153urs de l’\u00e9tranger, la guerre inachev\u00e9e au Liban, le manque de pluralisme religieux, le traitement in\u00e9gal des Isra\u00e9liens arabes, entre autres. <\/p>\n

En insistant sur le contexte socio-politique difficile dans lequel nous vivons, nous parvenons \u00e0 att\u00e9nuer ces critiques et parfois m\u00eame on appr\u00e9cie notre auto-critique. <\/p>\n

N\u00e9anmoins quand je traverse les Etats-unis pour m’adresser \u00e0 des publics Juifs, je constate qu’il devient de plus en plus difficile de pr\u00e9senter mon pays Isra\u00ebl sous un jour favorable. La raison c’est que je ne suis plus confront\u00e9 aux questions habituelles, le conflit isra\u00e9lo-palestinien, la barri\u00e8re de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, ce qui arrivera avec l’Iran \u2026 questions pour lesquelles on peut trouver des r\u00e9ponses logiques. Or quel que soit le sujet que je traite, la pr\u00e9occupation majeure des Juifs de la Diaspora concerne le malaise moral qui est train d’envahir l’\u00e9tat Juif. Allant du Pr\u00e9sident qui risque d’\u00eatre inculp\u00e9 de viol au Ministre de la Justice coupable de conduite ind\u00e9cente, \u00e0 des fonctionnaires du Fisc accus\u00e9s de fraude, jusqu’au Premier Ministre suspect d’abus de confiance et sans doute de magouilles criminelles. <\/p>\n

Alors j’explique que la mise sur la place publique de ces situations aberrantes est le r\u00e9sultat d’une d\u00e9mocratie transparente, d’un syst\u00e8me juridique implacable, d’une presse libre vivante. Nous ne cachons pas nos d\u00e9fauts, mais nous les affrontons. Avec beaucoup de difficult\u00e9 j’essaie d’expliquer qu’en lavant notre linge sale en public, nous agissons positivement. J’avoue que je ne parviens pas \u00e0 convaincre. C’est comme si j’essayais de justifier la d\u00e9gradation morale qui s’est empar\u00e9e de nos dirigeants. <\/p>\n

La triste v\u00e9rit\u00e9 c’est qu’il n’y a rien \u00e0 dire de positif \u00e0 propos de Mosh\u00e9 Katsav, le pr\u00e9sident du peuple Juif, qui sera bient\u00f4t inculp\u00e9 \u00e0 plusieurs reprises pour abus sexuel. Devant lui, Bill Clinton appara\u00eet comme un mod\u00e8le de vertu, lui qui a donn\u00e9 un sens nouveau au concept de \u00ab\u00a0relations sexuelles\u00a0\u00bb, dans ses \u00e9bats avec Monica Levinski. Et qui a entendu parler d’un ministre de la justice qui introduit de force sa langue dans la gorge d’une jeune fille qui aurait pu \u00eatre sa fille? <\/p>\n

Devant l’\u00e9tat moral de nos chefs, est-ce que nous pouvons continuer \u00e0 clamer que nous repr\u00e9sentons le monde Juif ? <\/p>\n

Les Juifs de la Diaspora ne consid\u00e8rent plus nos chefs comme des personnages h\u00e9ro\u00efques ou mythiques. Ceux-ci sont per\u00e7us comme des individus qui sapent tout soutien \u00e0 Isra\u00ebl. Ils apportent de l’eau au moulin des Juifs de la Diaspora qui ne souhaitent plus qu’Isra\u00ebl soit le Centre du Juda\u00efsme. <\/p>\n

Nous avons cr\u00e9\u00e9 une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 qui est d\u00e9primante. Je dis cela parce qu’aucun de nous ne devrait penser que nos dirigeants ne sont pas le reflet d’une volont\u00e9 morale du peuple. Un vieux proverbe dit que \u00ab\u00a0nous ne r\u00e9coltons que ce que nous semons\u00a0\u00bb et c’est nous qui avons permis au plus petit commun d\u00e9nominateur de parvenir au sommet, pour diriger notre pays et repr\u00e9senter le monde Juif. <\/p>\n

A mon public de la Diaspora, l’aspect le plus d\u00e9routant de la situation actuelle, ce n’est pas la d\u00e9pravation \u00e9thique des dirigeants Isra\u00e9liens, mais plut\u00f4t l’apathie de nos concitoyens et l’inertie qui semble les emp\u00eacher de faire ce qu’il faut pour renverser la situation. On n’a pas besoin aujourd’hui de ces apologues d’Isra\u00ebl faisant le tour de l’Am\u00e9rique pour att\u00e9nuer les effets de ce cancer moral qui a atteint notre corps politique. On a plut\u00f4t besoin que se l\u00e8vent des J\u00e9r\u00e9mie, Isa\u00efe, Mikah, Amos pour mener la protestation du peuple. Des milliers d’Isra\u00e9liens devraient d\u00e9filer devant la r\u00e9sidence pr\u00e9sidentielle, demandant au pr\u00e9sident de rester chez lui \u00e0 Qiryat Malachi\u2026 Notre 1er ministre Ehoud Olmert devrait le suivre. Combien de scandales scabreux devrions-nous subir encore avant que la population ne se l\u00e8ve pour dire ASSEZ! <\/p>\n

Il est grand temps d’exprimer une juste indignation devant la conduite de nos dirigeants. Autrement nous continuerons \u00e0 ali\u00e9ner les Juifs de la Diaspora, tout en souillant notre bien-\u00eatre moral. Si nous voulons continuer \u00e0 clamer que notre nation est int\u00e8gre, il faut que nos dirigeants soient au-del\u00e0 de tout reproche ! <\/p>\n

Embarrassed in America
By DAVID FORMAN \u2013 jp – Feb. 15, 2007 <\/p>\n

The world’s image of the Jew and its perception of Judaism are very much determined by what we Israelis do in our country. Israel is the yardstick by which the world judges the Jews. Therefore, a heavy responsibility rests upon those of us who live in the country, which is as it should be, for we have always propagated the notion that Israel is where the Jewish action is. <\/p>\n

Over and over again we have exhibited why Israel is so central for the Jewish world. We send the army to Entebbe to liberate Jewish hostages, we fly into war-torn Addis Ababa to rescue Ethiopian Jews and we absorb hundreds of thousands of Russian Jews. <\/p>\n

We are the proud face of the Jewish people. <\/p>\n

Even when we falter, tarnishing the positive image that we try to cultivate in the eyes of the Jewish community outside Israel, we have always been able to deflect criticism by comparing ourselves favourably to other nations of the world. Indeed, there is no shortage of criticism that one hears among our Jewish brothers and sisters abroad – our failed war in Lebanon, the lack of religious pluralism and the ill-treatment of Israeli Arabs, to name but a few. <\/p>\n

By pointing out the complex political and social realities with which Israelis live, we can, however, moderate criticism, often creating an appreciation for Israel’s ability to be self-critical. <\/p>\n

However, as I travel the United States addressing Jewish audiences, I find it increasingly difficult to present Israel in a positive light. The reason is that I am rarely confronted with the commonplace questions I have faced in the past – about the Israeli\/Palestinian conflict, the security wall or what will happen with Iran – questions that lend themselves to reasonable answers. <\/p>\n

Rather, no matter my topic, the most prominent concern of Diaspora Jews is the moral malaise that is sweeping the Jewish state – from a president who may be charged with rape and a minister of justice found guilty of indecent behavior to Tax Authority officials remanded for fraud and a prime minister suspected of breach of the public trust and possible criminal shenanigans. <\/p>\n

I EXPLAIN that the exposure of such aberrant behavior is testimony to Israel’s vibrant democracy, its relentless system of justice and its energetic free press. We do not cover up our errant ways, but confront them. Yet as hard as I try to convince my audiences that hanging out our dirty laundry in the public arena is an affirmative act, such a creative interpretation does not resonate with them. It is as if I am trying to explain away the moral degradation that characterizes too many of our leaders. <\/p>\n

The sad truth is that it is impossible to say anything positive about Moshe Katsav, the president of the Jewish people, who may soon be indicted on multiple counts of sexual abuse. Katsav makes Bill Clinton – who gave new meaning to the concept of \u00ab\u00a0sexual relations\u00a0\u00bb in the Monica Lewinsky affair – look like a paragon of moral virtue. Whoever heard of a minister of justice forcibly thrusting his tongue down the throat of a girl who could be the age of his daughter? <\/p>\n

With such a sorry state of moral leadership, can we continue to put forth the argument that we in Israel should be representing the Jewish world? <\/p>\n

Diaspora Jews no longer consider our leaders as either heroic or mythic. Rather they are seen as moral degenerates who are undermining not just support for Israel among Jews in America, but are also lending credibility to those in the Diaspora who would claim that Israel need not be a central element in one’s Jewish self-definition. <\/p>\n

We have created a depressing reality. I say this because none of us should think that our leaders do not reflect the moral will of the people. It is an old adage that we reap what we sow – and it is we who have allowed the lowest common denominator to rise to the very top, to lead our country and represent the Jewish world. <\/p>\n

To my Diaspora audiences, the most baffling aspect of the present sorry condition is not the ethical depravity of Israeli leaders, but rather the apathy of the citizenry and the inertia that seems to keep them from doing anything to alter the situation. <\/p>\n

What is not needed are Israeli apologists touring America to serve as spin doctors for a moral cancer that has infected our body politic. Instead, we need Jeremiahs and Isaiahs, Micahs and Amoses to rise up and lead the masses in protest. Thousands of Israelis must demonstrate outside the President’s Residence, demanding that he stay in Kiryat Malachi, for his very presence in the presidential mansion defiles the universal home of the Jewish people. Our prime minister, Ehud Olmert, should follow suit. <\/p>\n

How many more outlandish scandals must we suffer before we are finally motivated to collectively stand up and say: \u00ab\u00a0Enough\u00a0\u00bb? <\/p>\n

It is time to express a righteous indignation at the behavior of our leaders; otherwise we will continue to alienate Diaspora Jews, as well as sully our own moral well-being. If we wish to again proudly proclaim that Israel is the face of the Jewish people, as well as to reclaim our own sense of integrity as a nation, we must demand that our leaders be above moral reproach. <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Henri (Henri)<\/b> le lundi 19 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 07h16: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Emile, Girelle, Susan, Braham, Bebert,et tous mes amis d’Harissa,
Je vous souhaite beaucoup de joie et de bonheur, et vous remercie de tout mon coeur.
Hodech tov et mebourakh.
Apres Saguiv,voici Yaniv qui a si bien lu la torah.
\"yaniv\" <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le lundi 19 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 06h11: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Mazal tov \u00e0 Yaniv et \u00e0 Saguiv et tous les enfants du monde qu\u2019ils grandissent dans la paix et la joie. Amen <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Braham (Braham)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 23h44: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

A Henri <\/p>\n

\"Mazal <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Viviane (Viviane)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 20h34: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Si vous avez sous la main mon c\u00e9l\u00e9brissime ouvrage \u00ab\u00a0Le Passage\u00a0\u00bb de la hara au Belv\u00e9d\u00e8re (voir Google), sachez que j’ai consacr\u00e9 tout un passage sur la Hassida et son origine. Je ne le r\u00e9p\u00e8terai jamais assez: je n’ai jamais aim\u00e9 ce plat! ajoutez \u00e0 cel\u00e0 la Gnaou\u00efa ou Gombos que je d\u00e9teste tout autant. Les traumatismes de l’enfance…Viviane <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Braham (Braham)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 20h34: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

A chacun sa priere ! <\/p>\n

\"demissions\" <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Lalla (Lalla)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 19h14: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

a MR Sroussi <\/p>\n

Merci pour la recette de la assida;comme je suis une pietre cuisiniere mais aussi tres gourmande,je vous prie de me preciser la quantite de semoule pour les 4 a 5 verres d’eau;
tres amicalement <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Girelle (Girelle)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 18h05: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Un grand Mazel Tov \u00e0 toute votre famille, cher Henri <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Henri (Henri)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 15h59: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Merci Susan. <\/p>\n

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\"Haut\"Message\"Message\"Bas\"Lien Par Cacouboulou (Cacouboulou)<\/b> le dimanche 18 f\u00e9vrier 2007 – 12h43: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

En reprenant les propres propos de Ya\u00ebl K\u00f6nig sur Primo Europe, et ADRA, \u00e0 savoir : <\/p>\n

\u00ab\u00a0,,,lui a r\u00e9serv\u00e9 une place au cimeti\u00e8re de Guivat Shaul, qui domine J\u00e9rusalem, dans un nouveau carr\u00e9 consacr\u00e9 aux Juifs fran\u00e7ais.\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n

On y apprend ainsi l\u2019existence dans les cimeti\u00e8res de la Terre d’Israel, de carr\u00e9s en fonction, des nationalit\u00e9s d’origine, ou des naturalisation,,, <\/p>\n

Voudrait on ainsi devant la mort, reconstituer une nouvelle diaspora, \u00e0 l\u2019int\u00e9rieur m\u00eame du Pays. <\/p>\n

Mes amis religieux et \u00e9rudits, auriez vous une explication ? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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