{"id":37991,"date":"2026-10-03T03:33:39","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=37991"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:33:39","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:33:39","slug":"commentaires-mars-2005-archive-jusquau-14-mars-2005","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-mars-2005-archive-jusquau-14-mars-2005\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires Mars 2005 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 14\/mars\/2005"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 19h46: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Maurice, <\/p>\n<p>pas bien compris ce que j&rsquo;ai a voir la-dedans ?!!  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bekhor (Bekhor)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 19h17: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> BRAHAM, BREITOU, LALLA et toute la bande de sympathiques harissiens. <\/p>\n<p>Voila une carte postale des ann\u00e9es 1950\/60 la GRIBA de son SHIFFER TORA presque trois fois mill\u00e9naire et d\u2019un KANDIL tels qu\u2019ils \u00e9taient accroch\u00e9s dans toutes les synagogues de Tunisie sans exception. <\/p>\n<p>C\u2019\u00e9tait en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral un grand r\u00e9cipient en verre rempli ai trois quart d\u2019eau et une bonne \u00e9paisseur d\u2019huile d\u2019olive, qui de par la l\u00e9g\u00e8ret\u00e9 de l\u2019huile par rapport a l\u2019au se mettait en surface. <\/p>\n<p>Ce r\u00e9cipient se posait sur un support en argent, tenu lui-m\u00eame par des cha\u00eenes aussi en argent, que l\u2019on accrochait au plafond tel que dans la carte postale. <\/p>\n<p>En Tunisie les murs des synagogues \u00e9taient tapiss\u00e9s de KNEDELS (pluriel de KANDIL) pendus sur les hauts des murs que les fid\u00e8les accrochaient en permanences en m\u00e9moires de leurs parents d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9s. <\/p>\n<p>Dans chaque Kandil on pouvait lire dans une plaque cisel\u00e9e et en argent que ce Kandil \u00e9tait d\u00e9di\u00e9 \u00e0 la m\u00e9moire de tel d\u00e9funt, et \u00e9tait inscrit la date et l\u2019age de sa mort. <\/p>\n<p>En plus de ces innombrables KNEDELS, il y avait toujours dans toutes les synagogues le Kandil des grands Rabanims tel que Rebbi Shemeoun ou Rebbi M\u00e9ir. <\/p>\n<p>D\u2019ailleurs dans la CPA ce Kandil doit certainement \u00eatre d\u00e9di\u00e9 a un grand RAB. <\/p>\n<p>Victor Cohen. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"un\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13882.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Claudia (Claudia)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 18h48: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Isra\u00ebl aurait un plan d&rsquo;attaque de sites nucl\u00e9aires iraniens  <\/p>\n<p>LONDRES (Reuters) &#8211; Isra\u00ebl a mis au point des plans d&rsquo;attaque a\u00e9rienne et terrestre contre des installations nucl\u00e9aires iraniennes au cas o\u00f9 les efforts diplomatiques ne d\u00e9boucheraient pas sur un arr\u00eat du programme nucl\u00e9aire iranien, croit savoir le Sunday Times. <\/p>\n<p>Le Premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Ariel Sharon et son cabinet restreint ont donn\u00e9 le \u00ab\u00a0feu vert initial\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 une attaque unilat\u00e9rale contre des sites iraniens lors d&rsquo;une r\u00e9union tenue en f\u00e9vrier, lit-on dans le journal dominical britannique. <\/p>\n<p>Les autorit\u00e9s am\u00e9ricaines ont laiss\u00e9 entendre qu&rsquo;elles ne feraient pas obstacle aux plans isra\u00e9liens si les efforts diplomatiques de la communaut\u00e9 internationale \u00e9chouaient, ajoute le Sunday Times. <\/p>\n<p>Les plans isra\u00e9liens pr\u00e9voient l&rsquo;entr\u00e9e en action de commandos d&rsquo;\u00e9lite et des frappes a\u00e9riennes effectu\u00e9es par des F-15 utilisant des bombes anti-bunker, \u00e0 m\u00eame de percer le blindage d&rsquo;installations souterraines. <\/p>\n<p>Selon le Sunday Times, les forces isra\u00e9liennes se sont entra\u00een\u00e9es en simulant des attaques contre une reproduction de l&rsquo;installation de Natanz, o\u00f9 les Iraniens ont enrichi de l&rsquo;uranium. <\/p>\n<p>T\u00e9h\u00e9ran assure que son programme nucl\u00e9aire actuel est purement civil, ce que contestent les Etats-Unis et Isra\u00ebl. L&rsquo;Etat juif, dont la R\u00e9publique islamique pr\u00f4ne l&rsquo;an\u00e9antissement, estime que les Iraniens sont en passe de pouvoir fabriquer une arme nucl\u00e9aire. <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;Iran a d\u00e9cid\u00e9 le 15 novembre dernier de suspendre ses activit\u00e9s d&rsquo;enrichissement d&rsquo;uranium, le temps de rechercher un r\u00e8glement n\u00e9goci\u00e9 avec la \u00ab\u00a0tro\u00efka\u00a0\u00bb europ\u00e9enne, constitu\u00e9e de la France, de l&rsquo;Allemagne et de la Grande-Bretagne. <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;arm\u00e9e de l&rsquo;air isra\u00e9lienne est d\u00e9j\u00e0 intervenue contre des installations nucl\u00e9aires \u00e9trang\u00e8res, en d\u00e9truisant en 1981 le r\u00e9acteur d&rsquo;Osirak en Irak, pour emp\u00eacher le r\u00e9gime de Saddam Hussein de se doter d&rsquo;armes atomiques. <\/p>\n<p>Isra\u00ebl a tenu \u00e0 minimiser les informations du Sunday Times. Pri\u00e9 de dire si l&rsquo;Etat juif pourrait attaquer des installations nucl\u00e9aires iraniennes, le vice-Premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Shimon Peres a r\u00e9pondu en ces termes: \u00ab\u00a0Je ne pense pas\u00a0\u00bb.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Maurice (Maurice)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 18h34: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Djerbien ou djerbi Je suis tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord avec toi Bazooka doit empecher tout ce qui peut etre une insulte nous avons tant de mal Juifs et Musulmans de raison \u00e0 retrouver la Paix apres les dechirements de l&rsquo;Histoire et la recherche de boucs emissaires \u00e0 nos insuffisances et nos frustrations.Ma famille a vecu sans separtion du monde Tunisiens Musulmans elle a particip\u00e9 de fa\u00e7ons actives au combat d&rsquo;Independance moi meme en1951 Surveillant au Lyc\u00e9e Carnot on a mont\u00e9 des relais pour que les Etudiants grevistes puissent avoir leurs cours pour passer leurs examens et le 1\u00b0Ministre de l&rsquo;epoque m&rsquo;avait decor\u00e9 de L&rsquo;Officier du Nichan Tout le monde est \u00e0 peu pres parti laissant leur pass\u00e9 et leur avenir a reconstruire Dans tous les pays arabes meme phenomene d&rsquo;eliminer economiquement leur minorit\u00e9 Yaoudi(=JUDEENS enFran\u00e7ais )populations des Origines de ces regions  parmi la plus ancienne .Israel a\u00e9 t\u00e9 la part prise dans notre <br \/>Heritage Orientale Ce n&rsquo;est pas une colonisation c&rsquo;est un changement d&rsquo;adresse pour survivre et conserver sa culture son ecriture et sa langue Les Juifs  d&rsquo; occident exil\u00e9s par les invasions <br \/>eux aussi subissaient l&rsquo;Incapacit\u00e9 des peuples de conserver sans Opression leurs minoritaires.La Paix en particulier entre Arabes Palestiniens et Juifs  Israeliens est  le moyen de cicatriser les soufrances de ces deux peuples AIDONS LES nous des autres Pays  deja par la comprehension de l&rsquo;absurdit\u00e9 de la Haine Il y a   beaucoup \u00e0 faire pour lutter contre la misere  et le chomage surtout que le developpement de la Chine va absorber une grande partie de l&rsquo;Activit\u00e9 Economique <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Sibylle (Sibylle)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 18h28: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Braham et Lalla en vous lisant vous m\u2019avez envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 des ann\u00e9es en arri\u00e8res, du coup j\u2019ai t\u00e9l\u00e9phon\u00e9 \u00e0 ma tante pour lui demander une explication, elle m\u2019en a donn\u00e9 2 dont une, tr\u00e8s proche de la tienne Braham la voici :  <br \/>Je tiens avant toute chose  pr\u00e9ciser que cette explication n\u2019a aucune r\u00e9sonance ou impact religieux, juste une ancienne tradition qui se r\u00e9p\u00e8tent dans le temps chez quelques familles ; <br \/>La premi\u00e8re parce que moise descendit la Thora du mont Sina\u00ef sous forme de 2 tables de pierre, mais nous savons que les premi\u00e8res se bris\u00e8rent et tomb\u00e8rent  \u00ab va, descends, car ton peuple que tu as fait sortir du pays d\u2019Egypte s\u2019est corrompu \u00bb Ex .32 :7 et suivants <br \/>(Dans le Tiqoun une autre version dit que ce sont les r\u00e9ceptacles qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 bris\u00e9s et non l\u2019\u00e9criture) <br \/>Par la suite il leur donna les deux tables que nous connaissons. <br \/>Allumer 2 kandils serait en souvenir des 2 premi\u00e8res tables et des 2 secondes tables. <br \/>Ensuite elle a une autre explication tr\u00e8s subjective, franchement je ne sais pas si elle tient la route, d\u2019un point de vue isotherique l\u2019univers est partag\u00e9 en 2, le monde d\u2019en haut et notre monde que l\u2019on appel le monde d\u2019en bat, 2 kendils pour le chabbat qui doit \u00eatre respect\u00e9 dans les 2 mondes.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Emile_Tubiana (Emile_Tubiana)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 18h08: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Voici un article du Sanfransico qui exprime nos soufrances et je pense que chacun devait envoyer un rapport de son exp\u00e9rience ou celle de ses parents.  Je felicite Semha Alwaya pour cet article qui exprime presque tout. <br \/>================================================ <\/p>\n<p>The vanishing Jews of the Arab world  <br \/>Baghdad native tells the story of being a Middle East refugee <br \/>Semha Alwaya <\/p>\n<p>In discussions about refugees in the Middle East, a major piece of the narrative is routinely omitted, and my life is part of the tapestry of what&rsquo;s missing. I am a Jew, and I, too, am a refugee. Some of my childhood was spent in a refugee camp in Israel (yes, Israel). And I am far from being alone.  <\/p>\n<p>This experience is shared by hundreds of thousands of other indigenous Jewish Middle Easterners who share a similar background to my own. However, unlike the Palestinian Arabs, our narrative is largely ignored by the world because our story &#8212; that of some 900,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries dispossessed by Arab governments &#8212; is an inconvenience for those who seek to blame Israel for all the problems in the Middle East.  <\/p>\n<p>Our lives in the Israel of the 1950s were difficult. We had no money, no property; there were food shortages, few employment prospects. Israel was a new and poor country with very limited resources. It absorbed not only hundreds of thousands of us, but also an equal number of survivors of Hitler&rsquo;s genocide. We lived in dusty tents in \u00ab\u00a0transit camps,\u00a0\u00bb their official name because these were to be temporary, not permanent.  <\/p>\n<p>Housing was eventually built for us, we became Israeli citizens, and we ceased being refugees. The refugee camps in Israel that I knew as a child were phased out, and no trace of them remains. Israel did this without receiving a single cent from the international community, relying instead on the resourcefulness of its citizens and donations from Diaspora Jewish communities. Today, many of Israel&rsquo;s top leaders are from families that were forced to flee Arab countries, and we make up more than half of Israel&rsquo;s Jewish population.  <\/p>\n<p>I was born in Baghdad, and like most other Iraqis, my mother tongue is Arabic. My family&rsquo;s cuisine, our mannerisms, our outlook, are all strongly influenced by our synthesized Judeo-Arabic culture.  <\/p>\n<p>There once was a vibrant presence of nearly 1 million Jews residing in 10 Arab countries. Our Middle Eastern Jewish culture existed long before the Arab world dominated and rewrote the history of the Middle East. Today, however, fewer than 12,000 Jews remain in these lands &#8212; almost none in Iraq.  <\/p>\n<p>What happened to us, the indigenous Jews of the Arab world? Why were 150, 000 Iraqi Jews &#8212; my family included &#8212; forced out of Iraq? Why were an additional 800,000 Jews from nine other Arab countries also compelled to leave after 1948?  <\/p>\n<p>When the world of the 1930s and &rsquo;40s was divided between the democratic Allies and the Fascist Axis, Arab nationalists in Iraq and Palestine chose to form an alliance with Nazi Germany. The father of Palestinian nationalism and the mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, began his close collaboration with Nazi Germany in the mid-1930s.  <\/p>\n<p>The British put out an arrest warrant for the pro-Nazi Palestinian leader, but he escaped when war broke out in Europe in the spring of 1939. Later that year, he arrived in Baghdad and linked up with pro-Nazi Iraqi nationalist Rashid Ali al-Gaylani. In 1941 al-Husseini and al-Gaylani engineered a pro- German coup against the pro-British Iraqi government, which brought a reign of terror to Iraq&rsquo;s Jews. This culminated in what we remember as the Farhud, an Arabic word akin to \u00ab\u00a0pogrom.\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>In a two-day period Arab mobs went on a rampage in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq, murdering, raping and pillaging these cities&rsquo; Jewish communities. Nearly 200 Jews were killed, more than 2,000 injured; some 900 Jewish homes were destroyed and looted, as were hundreds of Jewish-owned shops. My father was a survivor of the carnage. He hid in a hole dug in the ground to save his life. He saw Iraqi soldiers pull small children away from their parents and rip the arms off young girls to steal their bracelets. He saw pregnant women being raped and their stomachs cut open.  <\/p>\n<p>Britain eventually regained control, but al-Husseini and other Palestinian nationalists had already fled to Berlin where they became honored guests of the Nazi state. Hitler told a grateful al-Husseini that \u00ab\u00a0Germany&rsquo;s only remaining objective in the [Middle East] would be limited to the annihilation of the Jews living under British protection in Arab lands.\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>Later, in a speech over Radio Berlin&rsquo;s Arabic Service, al-Husseini voiced support for the Nazis&rsquo; \u00ab\u00a0Final Solution\u00a0\u00bb and became the first Arab leader to call openly for the expulsion of Jews from Arab lands &#8212; some eight years before there was a single Palestinian refugee.  <\/p>\n<p>Even though Hitler lost the war, al-Husseini&rsquo;s call was heeded. In 1948, Iraq rounded up and imprisoned hundreds of Jews. Others were removed from their jobs in the civil service, business licenses of Jews were revoked, and quotas were placed on Jewish high school and college students. Later, discriminatory restrictions were imposed on Jewish travel abroad and the buying or selling of property. Thus, even if Jews wanted to escape Iraq, they could not do so legally, and they could not liquidate their assets.  <\/p>\n<p>In 1950, the Iraqi parliament passed a law called Ordinance for the Cancellation of Iraqi Nationality for Jews, Law No. 1 that stripped Iraqi Jews of their citizenship. In 1951, the Iraqi parliament passed another law, confiscating all Jewish property. Within a year, most of Iraq&rsquo;s ancient Jewish population, my family included, fled to Israel.  <\/p>\n<p>Elsewhere in the Arab world, Jews faced similar circumstances. In Libya in 1945, nearly 100 Jews were massacred. In 1948, the Jewish communities of Aden and Algeria were rocked by a series of attacks that left hundreds dead and many more injured. Discriminatory laws against Jews were passed in other Arab countries. Within a decade, the exodus of Jews from Arab countries was almost complete, with most going to Israel.  <\/p>\n<p>All of this was conducted under the guise of law by Arab governments. This forced Jews to flee lands where we had lived for thousands of years before the Arab-Islamic conquests.  <\/p>\n<p>Since 1949, the United Nations has passed more than 100 resolutions on Palestinian refugees. Yet, for Jewish refugees from Arab countries not a single U.N. resolution has been introduced recognizing our mistreatment or calling for justice for the hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees forced out of our homes. This imbalance of the world&rsquo;s concern is itself an injustice.  <\/p>\n<p>Arab governments instituted policies that led to nearly 900,000 Middle Eastern Jews becoming stateless refugees. Those same governments forced about 750,000 Palestinian refugees and their descendants to remain in impoverished refugee camps, refusing them citizenship and denying them hope.  <\/p>\n<p>Peace between Israel and the Arab world requires a solution that recognizes that there were two refugee populations. Acknowledging and redressing the legitimate rights of Jewish refugees from Arab countries will promote the cause of justice, peace and a true reconciliation.  <\/p>\n<p>Semha Alwaya is an attorney in the Bay Area and a founding member of Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa (www.jimena-justice.org). E-mail us at insight@sfchronicle.com.   <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Djerbien (Djerbien)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 17h11: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> je pense qu\u00b4il ne faut plus afficher des propos d\u00b4individu comme davideden,ces propos qui insite a la haine deja que mon pays invite un sharon que je definis desole pour le mot comme un &#8230;&#8230;. et apres il dit abbas et ses 40 voleurs. mon dieu faites un peu plus d\u00b4effort envers vos homologues comme nous en tant que tunisiens on l\u00b4a fait et surtout un peu plus d\u00b4indulgences vous savez on est pas oblige d\u00b4aimer la personne avec qui on parle parfois il faut faire quelques sacrifices pour faire avancer un procesus  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 17h20: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"LA VEILLEUSE\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/13879.gif\"\/> moderne&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>A propos du KANDIL&#8230;. <\/p>\n<p>Puisque nous parlons de veilleuse et autres r\u00e9cipients \u00e0 huile avec m\u00e9chettes baignant dans de l&rsquo;eau et de l&rsquo;huile, ma maman proc\u00e9dait aussi de la fa\u00e7on suivante,  comme toutes les m\u00e9res tune,  <\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;Tqawar tarf journal la Presse ou tneq&rsquo;bou fi oustou ou b\u00e2\u00e2d d\u00e9khel ftil\u00e8 ( yeraa fi &#8230;Ye Citron ..) qton fi oustou ou thatou fouq el jeit, ou b\u00e2\u00e2d kbol m\u00e9l megh&rsquo;r\u00e8b tcha&rsquo;\u00e2\u00e2l \u00e8l ftil\u00e8 ou tkhaliy\u00e8 hatt\u00e8 te t\u00e8t fa ouehe&rsquo;da ouehe&rsquo;da&#8230;El qandil me il tch\u00e2&rsquo;\u00e2l qen f\u00e9l sl\u00e2\u00e2 amorn\u00e8 me ch\u00e2&rsquo;yel&rsquo;n\u00e8 qandil fel dar,  fi darn\u00e8&#8230;! <\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;..Elle d\u00e9coupait un rond de papier journal &lsquo;La PRESSE&rsquo; qu&rsquo;elle trouait en son centre puis elle introduisait un filet de coton roul\u00e8 \u00e0 la main, l&rsquo;ensemble coton et papier venait flotter sur l&rsquo;huile ensuite,  elle allumait la m\u00e9che avant la rentr\u00e8e du MOGHREB&#8230;YE EMILE&#8230;( wineq..!) qu&rsquo;elle laissait allumer toute la nuit jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 \u00e9xtinction&#8230;YE LA DOUDA&#8230;( wineq&rsquo;..!&rsquo;)  <\/p>\n<p>L agrance veilleuse ne s&rsquo;allumait qu&rsquo;\u00e0 la syna mais jamais chez nous \u00e0 la maison&#8230;!&rsquo; <\/p>\n<p>Albert et sa veilleuse&#8230;  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Albert (Albert)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 17h08: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  &lsquo;&#8230;KANDIL SIDI MAHREZ&#8230;I DEWI QEN AAL BARANI&#8230;!&rsquo; <\/p>\n<p>La veilleuse de SIDI MARHREZ QUI NE GUERIT QUE LES ETRANGERS ET JAMAIS LES SIENS&#8230;!&rsquo; <\/p>\n<p>Albert <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 17h02: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  A propos des \u00ab\u00a0meches\u00a0\u00bb: <\/p>\n<p>Ma grand-mere Rachel Boukobza nee Bessis (zal), soussienne nee a Monastir (elle allait en classe avec le regrette Habib Bourguiba), confectionnait aussi des meches de coton qu&rsquo;elle faisait flotter dans un petit verre sur un melange d&rsquo;eau et d&rsquo;huile d&rsquo;olive, et a Hanoucca, au moment de la saison des oranges sanguines, elle nous enseignait de ses petites mains freles comment eplucher habilement des oranges\/mandarines pour conserver la peau presque intacte et l&rsquo;utiliser comme \u00ab\u00a0photophore\u00a0\u00bb, en y mettant un fond d&rsquo;huile d&rsquo;olive.  <br \/>Ces \u00ab\u00a0lampions\u00a0\u00bb-oranges repandent un agreable parfum et un halo de lumiere orange dans toute la maison.  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Hajkloufette (Hajkloufette)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 16h17: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Abbas appuie implicitement l\u2019invitation adress\u00e9e par Tunis \u00e0 Sharon  <br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; <\/p>\n<p>Le pr\u00e9sident de l\u2019Autorit\u00e9 palestinienne Mahmoud Abbas a, dans une d\u00e9claration rapport\u00e9e vendredi par la presse tunisienne, implicitement appuy\u00e9 le gouvernement tunisien \u00e0 la suite l\u2019invitation adress\u00e9e au premier ministre isra\u00e9lien Ariel Sharon \u00e0 se rendre en Tunisie. Il a estim\u00e9 que cette d\u00e9cision relevait de la \u00ab\u00a0souverainet\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb du pays d\u2019accueil. <br \/>Ariel Sharon a \u00e9t\u00e9 invit\u00e9 \u00e0 participer au sommet mondial sur la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de l\u2019information (SMSI) parrain\u00e9 par l\u2019ONU, dont la deuxi\u00e8me phase, apr\u00e8s celle de Gen\u00e8ve, doit se d\u00e9rouler en novembre prochain en Tunisie. Cette invitation a provoqu\u00e9 des manifestations de protestation, notamment dans le milieu \u00e9tudiant en Tunisie. <br \/>\u00ab\u00a0Le gouvernement tunisien est souverain. Il a le droit d\u2019inviter qui il veut et d\u2019accueillir sur son sol qui il veut. C\u2019est une question de souverainet\u00e9 dans laquelle nul ne peut s\u2019ing\u00e9rer\u00a0\u00bb, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 le num\u00e9ro un palestinien \u00e0 la cha\u00eene publique tunisienne TV7. <br \/>Il affirme que l\u2019Autorit\u00e9 palestinienne observera \u00ab\u00a0une attitude de respect et de consid\u00e9ration\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard de toute d\u00e9cision de Tunis. Il pr\u00e9cise qu\u2019il effectuera \u00ab\u00a0tr\u00e8s prochainement\u00a0\u00bb une visite en Tunisie au cours de laquelle il d\u00e9battra avec le pr\u00e9sident Zine El Abidine Ben Ali \u00ab\u00a0de l\u2019ensemble des questions bilat\u00e9rales et internationales qui nous pr\u00e9occupent\u00a0\u00bb. <br \/>Le responsable palestinien condamne par ailleurs les critiques formul\u00e9es par le Jihad islamique contre l\u2019invitation adress\u00e9e par Tunis \u00e0 Ariel Sharon, affirmant que des comptes seront demand\u00e9s \u00e0 leurs auteurs dont les propos \u00ab\u00a0n\u2019expriment s\u00fbrement pas notre position\u00a0\u00bb, assure-t-il. <br \/>Lors d\u2019une manifestation organis\u00e9e mardi dernier \u00e0 Gaza, un dirigeant de ce mouvement radical palestinien, Habib Khader, avait qualifi\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0honte pour tous les Arabes\u00a0\u00bb la visite annonc\u00e9e d\u2019Ariel Sharon en Tunisie. <br \/>\u00ab\u00a0Nous refusons d\u2019adresser toute critique ou des propos malveillants au gouvernement, au peuple et au chef de l\u2019Etat tunisiens, car nous sommes redevables \u00e0 la Tunisie de ses positions constantes et fermes en faveur de la cause palestinienne et en particulier les positions du pr\u00e9sident Ben Ali\u00a0\u00bb, a soulign\u00e9 Mahmoud Abbas. Il a, \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard, rappel\u00e9 le soutien apport\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0historiquement\u00a0\u00bb par la Tunisie au peuple palestinien dont elle avait accueilli la direction pendant 12 ans apr\u00e8s le si\u00e8ge de Beyrouth par l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne en 1982. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tunezine.com\/breve.php3?id_breve=2145\">http:\/\/www.tunezine.com\/breve.php3?id_breve=2145<\/a> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Shalom (Shalom)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 13h43: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  \u00c0 Braham et Lalla <\/p>\n<p>Je ne suis pas tr\u00e8s connaisseur sur la religion, mais en ce qui concerne les traditions, j\u2019observai beaucoup. <\/p>\n<p>Je me souviens tr\u00e8s bien que ma m\u00e8re, chez nous n\u2019allumait qu\u2019un Kendil et pas deux. Tradition que ma femme observe aujourd\u2019hui. Elle n\u2019utilise jamais de bougies. <\/p>\n<p>Shalom \u00e0 Tous <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/>  Par <b>Braham (Braham)<\/b> le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 12h09: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Lalla <\/p>\n<p>Pour le Shabbat on allume 2 Kandils, de m\u00eame qu&rsquo;on met 2 pains sur la table. Ces jumel\u00e9s sont expliqu\u00e9s par l\u2019apparition r\u00e9p\u00e9t\u00e9e des 10 commandements dans la Thora, presque \u00e0 l&rsquo;identique.  <br \/>Le IVe commandement dit, dans la premi\u00e8re version: \u00ab\u00a0Souviens-toi du jour du Shabbat&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb (Exode ch. 20 verset 8) <br \/>Dans la deuxi\u00e8me version, il est \u00e9crit: \u00a0\u00bb Observe le jour de Shabbat&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb (Deut\u00e9ronome ch. 5 verset 12) <br \/>Les mots \u00ab\u00a0Shamor ve-zakhor\u00a0\u00bb (observe et souviens-toi) se retrouvent aussi dans la pri\u00e8re du vendredi soir (Lekha dodi). <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Bazooka (Bazooka) le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 19h46: Maurice, pas bien compris ce que j&rsquo;ai a voir la-dedans ?!! Par Bekhor (Bekhor) le dimanche 13 mars 2005 &#8211; 19h17: BRAHAM, BREITOU, LALLA et toute la bande de sympathiques harissiens. Voila une carte postale des ann\u00e9es 1950\/60 la GRIBA de son SHIFFER TORA presque&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":50151,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[497],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37991","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-commentaires"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Commentaires Mars 2005 : Archive jusqu&#039;au 14\/mars\/2005 | HARISSA.COM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Par Bazooka (Bazooka) le dimanche 13 mars 2005 - 19h46: Maurice, pas bien compris ce que j&#039;ai a voir la-dedans ?!! 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