{"id":39073,"date":"2026-10-03T03:35:48","date_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:35:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/?p=39073"},"modified":"2026-10-03T03:35:48","modified_gmt":"2026-10-03T03:35:48","slug":"commentaires-mars-2006-archive-jusquau-23-mars-2006-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/commentaires-mars-2006-archive-jusquau-23-mars-2006-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Commentaires Mars 2006 : Archive jusqu&rsquo;au 23\/mars\/2006-1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><basefont\/> <a> <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<hr\/>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9654\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9655\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Girelle (Girelle)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 15h22: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Nao, <\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est plus grave encore que vous ne pouvez le croire: Il ne reste presque plus de chr\u00e9tiens en France, et ceux qui ne portaient pas de chales \u00e9taient des convertis discrets. <\/p>\n<p>Demandez \u00e0 vos sources d&rsquo;information, vous verrez&#8230; <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9655\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9653\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9654\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 10h43: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Pour voir l&rsquo;interview de Jonasz avant le spectacle: <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guysen.com\/videos.php?vid=307\">http:\/\/www.guysen.com\/videos.php?vid=307<\/a> <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9654\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9650\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9653\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Maxiton (Maxiton)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 10h07: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Ch\u00e2les ? <\/p>\n<p>ma femme appelle ce truc une serpilli\u00e8re  <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9653\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9649\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9650\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Bazooka (Bazooka)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 07h29: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Juste pour vous dire que je suis encore sous le charme du concert qu&rsquo;a donne Michel Jonasz dimanche dernier a Tel Aviv, voir les premieres images sur: <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guysen.com\/videos.php?vid=310\">http:\/\/www.guysen.com\/videos.php?vid=310<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Je vous relaterai ce concert memorable dans quelques jours &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>Une preuve supplementaire, s&rsquo;il en fallait, que la Francophonie se porte vraiment bien en Israel. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9650\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9648\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9649\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Mena (Mena)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 06h16: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Le livre politiquement incorrect sur l\u2019Irak d\u2019une journaliste de FR2 (info # 012103\/6) [analyse]  <br \/>Par Viviane Miles \u00a9 Metula News Agency <\/p>\n<p>La diff\u00e9rence entre \u00ab\u00a0Irak, la v\u00e9rit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb de Jeanne Assouly et les autres ouvrages publi\u00e9s en France sur le m\u00eame th\u00e8me, c\u2019est \u00ab\u00a0la v\u00e9rit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb. <\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"c:\/\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6117.jpg\"\/><\/div>\n<p>Je viens de d\u00e9vorer un polar. Enfin, presque. C\u2019est en tous cas ainsi que se pr\u00e9sente le d\u00e9but du livre que Jeanne Assouly vient de publier : \u00ab Irak, la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 : ce que la France peut craindre du proc\u00e8s Saddam Hussein \u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Avant de d\u00e9crire la chute du despote irakien, Jeanne Assouly, journaliste \u00e0 la r\u00e9daction de France 2 depuis dix-huit ans, commence par emmener ses lecteurs dans un bond en arri\u00e8re de mille deux cents ans, dans un d\u00e9cor inspir\u00e9 des Mille et une nuits. Tr\u00e8s exactement lorsque \u00ab en l\u2019an 803 de notre \u00e8re, Haroun al-Rachid, calife abbasside l\u00e9gendaire de Bagdad, envoie une ambassade au tout aussi c\u00e9l\u00e8bre empereur Charlemagne, roi des Francs \u00bb, rencontre qui marque le d\u00e9but d\u2019une amiti\u00e9 durable entre la France et l\u2019Irak, m\u00eame si les relations entre les deux nations connaissent quelques p\u00e9riodes creuses dans leur histoire. Puis sautant en une page quelques g\u00e9n\u00e9rations, le lecteur est projet\u00e9 au XX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle, en 1958 pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment, quand Charles de Gaulle r\u00e9alise l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat territorial que repr\u00e9sente l\u2019Irak pour la France. Le G\u00e9n\u00e9ral va alors poser les premiers jalons d\u2019une pr\u00e9sence fran\u00e7aise pour contrebalancer celle des anglo-am\u00e9ricains dans la r\u00e9gion, avec, en arri\u00e8re-plan, il faut bien le reconna\u00eetre, la convoitise du p\u00e9trole irakien. <\/p>\n<p>L\u2019instigateur du rapprochement entre la France et l\u2019Irak est un certain Jacques Benoist-M\u00e9chin. Expert militaire sous de Gaulle, il avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 eu le temps de tisser des liens tr\u00e8s solides en Irak depuis 1941, alors que, sous les ordres du gouvernement de Vichy, il tentait de n\u00e9gocier des livraisons d\u2019armes au chef irakien Rachid Ali pour renverser le r\u00e9gent pro-britannique. <\/p>\n<p>Int\u00e9r\u00eat fran\u00e7ais bien compris, \u00e0 la d\u00e9mission du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Gaulle, en 1969, peu apr\u00e8s l\u2019accession au pouvoir de Saddam Hussein \u00e0 Bagdad, ce sont les successeurs du pr\u00e9sident sortant \u2013 Georges Pompidou, puis Val\u00e9ry Giscard d\u2019Estaing, et enfin Jacques Chirac \u2013 qui concr\u00e9tisent les accords initi\u00e9s par Benoist-M\u00e9chin. <\/p>\n<p>La destruction de la centrale nucl\u00e9aire Osirak (Tamouz) par l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne en 1981 incite Fran\u00e7ois Mitterrand \u00e0 r\u00e9duire la coop\u00e9ration nucl\u00e9aire avec le ra\u00efs du Tigre et de l\u2019Euphrate. Et, lorsque, quelques ann\u00e9es plus tard, l\u2019Irak envahit le Kowe\u00eft, les relations franco-iraquiennes connaissent une s\u00e9rieuse \u00e9clipse.  <\/p>\n<p>Aujourd\u2019hui la France a \u00e0 nouveau resserr\u00e9 ses liens avec l\u2019Irak, comme le d\u00e9montre clairement Jeanne Assouly, alors qu\u2019une grande partie de la population fran\u00e7aise \u2013 compos\u00e9e d\u2019une frange croissante de musulmans \u2013 exprime haut et fort, bien plus qu\u2019hier, ses penchants pro-irakiens et anti-am\u00e9ricains. Cette nouvelle donne explique que la r\u00e9action fran\u00e7aise en 2003 n\u2019est plus celle de 1990 ; et que Chirac, contrairement \u00e0 Mitterrand, ne s\u2019est pas rang\u00e9 aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de la coalition anglo-am\u00e9ricaine. <\/p>\n<p>Au chapitre suivant, changement de style. Jeanne Assouly r\u00e9ussit le tour de force de faire na\u00eetre sous sa plume un suspense intense qui d\u00e9passe la fiction. Un compte \u00e0 rebours haletant. C\u2019est le r\u00e9cit d\u2019une traque, jour apr\u00e8s jour, heure apr\u00e8s heure, qui s\u2019ach\u00e8ve par l\u2019arrestation de Saddam Hussein, d\u00e9busqu\u00e9 dans le terrier o\u00f9 il se cache, et par quelques mots prononc\u00e9s par le gouverneur d\u2019Irak Paul Bremer : \u00ab We have got him. \u00bb, (Nous l\u2019avons !). <\/p>\n<p>L\u2019art de la journaliste de France 2 est de passer d\u2019un genre \u00e0 l\u2019autre avec un \u00e9gal brio. Elle encha\u00eene sous la forme d\u2019un journal de bord, alternant les descriptions factuelles et les interviews de personnalit\u00e9s qu\u2019elle a rencontr\u00e9es. <\/p>\n<p>Elle nous fait ainsi partager, au fil des pages, les confidences intimistes \u2013 parfois d\u2019une c\u00e9cit\u00e9 frisant la mauvaise foi \u2013 de Ziad et Zeinab, les enfants de Tarek Aziz, inconscients que leur p\u00e8re e\u00fbt pu \u00eatre au service d\u2019un tyran sanguinaire. Puis les r\u00e9v\u00e9lations d\u2019Amine Gemayel, ancien pr\u00e9sident du Liban, investi par Saddam Hussein, comme le fut \u00e9galement Tarek Aziz, d\u2019une mission de bons offices aupr\u00e8s de repr\u00e9sentants fran\u00e7ais, anglais et am\u00e9ricains ainsi que du pape, pour essayer d\u2019\u00e9viter la guerre et de m\u00e9nager au pr\u00e9sident irakien une sortie honorable. Alain Juillet, ancien directeur de la DGSE, et Evgueni Primakov, ancien ministre russe des Affaires Etrang\u00e8res, confirment dans leurs t\u00e9moignages ces n\u00e9gociations secr\u00e8tes. <\/p>\n<p>Et l\u2019auteur de soulever des questions troublantes, dont la premi\u00e8re est indubitablement de savoir si le soi-disant camp de la paix n\u2019a pas, par son attitude irresponsable et sa vision \u00e0 court terme, pr\u00e9cipit\u00e9 la guerre. C\u2019est ce qu\u2019\u00e9tablit Jeanne Assouly dans son enqu\u00eate minutieuse. Qui aboutit \u00e0 la conclusion que si Saddam Hussein s\u2019est accroch\u00e9 \u00e0 son pouvoir alors qu\u2019il avait la possibilit\u00e9 de trouver refuge dans divers pays du Moyen-Orient, ou m\u00eame en Russie, c\u2019est en grande partie parce que le \u00ab camp de la paix \u00bb, France en t\u00eate, a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 le convaincre qu\u2019il \u00e9tait intouchable. L\u2019auteur l\u2019explique d\u2019ailleurs fort bien dans une chronique sur France Info, le 12 mars dernier, au micro de Philippe Vallet : \u00ab (\u2026) Mais les manifestants pacifistes dans le monde l\u2019ont confort\u00e9 dans la d\u00e9cision qu\u2019il devait rester pour faire plier Bush et l\u2019Am\u00e9rique. En outre la France l\u2019avait assur\u00e9 d\u2019un veto contre la guerre \u00e0 l\u2019ONU, ce qui l\u2019a convaincu de son choix. \u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Le ra\u00efs, pourtant m\u00e9fiant de nature, s\u2019est donc laiss\u00e9 gagner par les promesses de ses amis et en a perdu sa clairvoyance. <\/p>\n<p>Apr\u00e8s le temps des n\u00e9gociations rat\u00e9es vient celui de la confrontation. Mais, comme le souligne l\u2019auteur, l\u2019intervention des Am\u00e9ricains, contrairement aux v\u0153ux des m\u00e9dia fran\u00e7ais, est rapide et efficace au lieu de s\u2019enliser dans un remake du bourbier vietnamien. En un peu plus d\u2019un mois, la coalition anglo-am\u00e9ricaine, soutenue par les Kurdes, prend le pays presque sans rencontrer de r\u00e9sistance. La surprise, voire la d\u00e9ception des Fran\u00e7ais est encore plus grande \u00e0 la d\u00e9couverte de la joie manifest\u00e9e par la population irakienne d\u2019\u00eatre enfin d\u00e9barrass\u00e9e de son tourmenteur. La journaliste, qui a pass\u00e9 au peigne fin la presse hexagonale, rel\u00e8ve l\u2019acharnement des grands journaux g\u00e9n\u00e9ralistes, en particulier Le Monde et Lib\u00e9ration, \u2013 toujours \u00e0 l\u2019aff\u00fbt du moindre faux pas ou de la moindre bavure am\u00e9ricaine \u2013 \u00e0 d\u00e9sinformer l\u2019opinion publique. Pourtant les choses avancent : en quelques semaines, un gouvernement provisoire irakien est mis en place au grand dam de la France, persuad\u00e9e que la guerre ne fait que commencer et que les Etats-Unis \u00ab ne sont pas au bout de leurs peines \u00bb. Mais le 3 septembre 2003, soit moins de six mois apr\u00e8s l\u2019entr\u00e9e des troupes de la coalition en Irak, le \u00ab premier gouvernement de l\u2019apr\u00e8s-Saddam pr\u00eate serment. \u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>L\u2019arrestation de Saddam Hussein a marqu\u00e9 un tournant dans le conflit. Aujourd\u2019hui, les Irakiens ont une constitution ; l\u2019\u00e9conomie red\u00e9marre ; la vie reprend le dessus, malgr\u00e9 les attentats quotidiens. C\u2019est aussi l\u2019heure des bilans. Jeanne Assouly analyse s\u00e9v\u00e8rement l\u2019attitude de la France et met en relief les motivations douteuses qui ont conduit le gouvernement de Chirac \u00e0 soutenir envers et contre tout le r\u00e9gime tyrannique de Bagdad. Pour l\u2019auteur, cette attitude est en train de co\u00fbter cher \u00e0 la France sur les plans \u00e9conomique, politique et diplomatique. La France, qui \u00e9tait surtout, tel un gamin capricieux, motiv\u00e9e par le d\u00e9sir compulsif de dire non, de s\u2019opposer au \u00ab grand fr\u00e8re \u00bb am\u00e9ricain pour affirmer son ind\u00e9pendance. <\/p>\n<p>Se basant sur les interviews d\u2019une dizaine de personnalit\u00e9s connues, l\u2019auteur apporte un \u00e9clairage nouveau et original sur les coulisses de l\u2019avant-guerre, de la guerre et de l\u2019apr\u00e8s-guerre en Irak, dans une analyse percutante et r\u00e9fl\u00e9chie. A contre-courant du credo anti-am\u00e9ricain des media et du gouvernement fran\u00e7ais. On peut toutefois regretter que le th\u00e8me sugg\u00e9r\u00e9 par le sous-titre prometteur ne soit abord\u00e9 qu\u2019\u00e0 la fin, et encore de fa\u00e7on incompl\u00e8te. Avec tout de m\u00eame la confirmation que Chirac et son entourage pourraient bien faire les frais de r\u00e9v\u00e9lations embarrassantes, notamment dans le cadre du programme \u00ab p\u00e9trole contre nourriture \u00bb, lorsque les t\u00e9moins et les principaux protagonistes seront appel\u00e9s \u00e0 la barre dans le proc\u00e8s du dictateur irakien. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9649\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9647\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9648\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Nao (Nao)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 00h40: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  Avez-vous remarque le nombre de chales palestiniens arbor\u00e9s par les manifestants lyceens et non lyceens???  <br \/>Assez inquietant!  <br \/>Ca prouve que tous ces jeunes sont manipules par les gauchistes, LCR et compagnie.. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9648\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9645\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9647\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Michka (Michka)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 00h35: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> Et pendant ce temps-l\u00e0, en France , on d\u00e9file\u2026 <\/p>\n<p>Le meilleur march\u00e9 de l\u2019emploi pour les jeunes diplom\u00e9s depuis 2001 <br \/>Mardi 21 mars 2006 par lagrette <\/p>\n<p>WASHINGTON (Reuters) \u2014 Les jeunes dipl\u00f4m\u00e9s d\u2019universit\u00e9 ont devant eux le meilleur march\u00e9 du travail depuis 2001, la plus forte demande allant vers les dipl\u00f4mes en business, en informatique , en ing\u00e9nierie, en \u00e9ducation et en sant\u00e9, selon le rapport d\u2019 une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de conseil en emploi. <br \/>\u201cNous nous approchons du plein l\u2019emploi  et certains employeurs con\u00e7oivent d\u00e9j\u00e0 des avantages pour attirer les meilleurs talents,\u201d a  d\u00e9clar\u00e9 John Challenger, le directeur g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de Challenger, Gray &amp; Christmas. <br \/>Dans sa perspective annuelle  sur le premier emploi, la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 estime que la forte croissance des emplois et la baisse du ch\u00f4mage  font de ce printemps le meilleur march\u00e9 du travail depuis l\u2019\u00e9clatement de la bulle internet en 2001  pour les 1.4 millions de dipl\u00f4m\u00e9s americains. <br \/>Une enqu\u00eate par la National Association of Colleges and Employers   montre que les employeurs projettent d\u2019engager 14,5% de  nouveaux dipl\u00f4m\u00e9s de plus qu\u2019il y a un an. <br \/>L\u2019enqu\u00eate a aussi montr\u00e9 une augmentation des salaires de d\u00e9part cette ann\u00e9e. Les dipl\u00f4m\u00e9s en \u00e9conomie ou en finance verront la plus grande augmentation avec les salaires de d\u00e9part en hausse de 11 % \u00e0 $45 191, alors que  les salaires en comptabilit\u00e9 sont en hausse de 6.2 %, les salaires en administration des affaires en hausse de 3.9 % et ceux des ing\u00e9nieurs civils de 4.3 %. <\/p>\n<p>Source USA Today. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9647\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9644\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9645\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Michka (Michka)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 00h17: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> H\u00e9h\u00e9 !!! Heureux comme un juif en France !!! <\/p>\n<p>Agression \u00e0 caract\u00e8re antis\u00e9mite \u00e0 Paris 19 eme. Deux jeunes juifs, fr\u00e8res, sont insult\u00e9s et frapp\u00e9s par 4 individus le samedi 18 mars 2006. <br \/>BUREAU NATIONAL DE VIGILANCE CONTRE L&rsquo;ANTISEMITISME <br \/>21\/3\/2006 <\/p>\n<p>Le Pr\u00e9sident <br \/>Sammy GHOZLAN <\/p>\n<p>Le Bureau National de Vigilance Contre l&rsquo;antis\u00e9mitisme d\u00e9plore une nouvelle agression \u00e0 caract\u00e8re antis\u00e9mite qui s&rsquo;est produite le samedi 18 mars 2006 \u00e0 Paris 19 eme . <\/p>\n<p>David H 15 ans et son fr\u00e8re Ilan H 12 ans regagnent leur domicile vers 19h50, lorsqu&rsquo;ils croisent 4 jeunes gens qu&rsquo;il d\u00e9crivent comme \u00e9tant l&rsquo;un d&rsquo;origine nord africaine, et les autres d&rsquo;origine africaine. Ils reconnaissent parmi eux des \u00e9l\u00e8ves du coll\u00e8ge qu&rsquo;ils fr\u00e9quentent. Arriv\u00e9s \u00e0 leur hauteur, l&rsquo;un d&rsquo;entre eux leur dit \u00ab\u00a0SALUT YOUPIN\u00a0\u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Au moment ou David, interloqu\u00e9, se dirige vers l&rsquo;auteur de l&rsquo;insulte pour en comprendre les raisons, les autres individus provoquent l&rsquo;altercation, prof\u00e8rent des insultes antijuives, et frappent les deux fr\u00e8res juifs. <\/p>\n<p>Ceux ci bless\u00e9s et traumatis\u00e9s, d\u00e9posent plainte. Ils sont conduits \u00e0 l&rsquo;IMJ qui leur prescrit une premi\u00e8re ITT de 2 jours et un suivi psychologique de r\u00e9paration. <\/p>\n<p>Nous demandons \u00e0 la Police charg\u00e9e de l&rsquo;enqu\u00eate d&rsquo;interpeller tous les auteurs des faits, et les mettre \u00e0 la disposition de la justice . <\/p>\n<p>Nous demandons au chef d&rsquo;Etablissement fr\u00e9quent\u00e9 par les mis en cause de prendre les mesures disciplinaires impos\u00e9es par le comportement violent et raciste de ces coll\u00e9giens, m\u00eame si les \u00e9v\u00e8nements se sont d\u00e9roul\u00e9s en dehors du coll\u00e8ge. <\/p>\n<p>Sammy GHOZLAN <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9645\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9638\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9644\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">Lalla (Lalla)<\/a><\/b> le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 00h07: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>  super comme debut!qui c&rsquo;est ce JANOS SEVILLARD?? <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div> <a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Haut de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_top.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9644\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_up.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Message suivant\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_down.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#MB\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bas de la page\" height=\"12\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/mark_bottom.gif\" width=\"12\"\/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/messages\/97\/6135.html#POST9638\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Lien vers ce message\" height=\"16\" src=\"https:\/\/harissa.com\/discus\/icons\/tree_m.gif\" width=\"20\"\/><\/a>  Par <b><a href=\"javascript:alert('The e-mail address and profile information for the individual posting this message is not available.')\">A_Soued (A_Soued)<\/a><\/b> le mardi 21 mars 2006 &#8211; 21h50: <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p> PSYCHANALYSE D&rsquo;UNE PALESTINE EN CHUTE LIBRE  <\/p>\n<p>Symposium r\u00e9alis\u00e9 par www.FrontPageMagazine.com et anim\u00e9 par Jamie Glazov, r\u00e9unissant Kenneth Levin, professeur de psychiatrie \u00e0 la Harvard Medical school, David Keyes, assistant d&rsquo;un ex-ambassadeur d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl \u00e0 l&rsquo;Onu et journaliste au Jerusalem Center of Public affaires et David Gutmann, professeur Emeritus de psychologie \u00e0 la Northwestern University de Chicago, le 17 mars 2006 <\/p>\n<p>R\u00e9sum\u00e9 et conclusions en fran\u00e7ais par Albert Soued, www.chez.com\/soued\/conf.htm  <\/p>\n<p>Pour le site www.nuitdorient.com &#8211; 21 mars 2006  <\/p>\n<p>Les 2 questions pos\u00e9es par l&rsquo;animateur sont: Pourquoi les Palestiniens ont utilis\u00e9 une ouverture d\u00e9mocratique pour \u00e9lire un gouvernement islamo-fasciste et pourquoi la gauche isra\u00e9lienne profite de l&rsquo;occasion pour consid\u00e9rer le Hamas, vou\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;extermination des Juifs, comme une force de justice sociale ?  <\/p>\n<p>Depuis 1947, dans les choix successifs qu&rsquo;ils ont faits, les Palestiniens ont toujours cru qu&rsquo;ils allaient gagner et les raisons d&rsquo;aller en guerre n&rsquo;avaient rien d&rsquo;auto-destructif, mais r\u00e9sultait d&rsquo;une d\u00e9termination \u00e0 tuer le maximum de Juifs. \u00c0 chaque fois, ils ont p\u00e9ch\u00e9 par un mauvais calcul ou par optimisme exag\u00e9r\u00e9. Avec le choix du Hamas, nous sommes dans le m\u00eame processus d&rsquo;une illusion parano\u00efaque qui est entretenue par les ma\u00eetres, les sheikhs, les m\u00e9dias et les dirigeants. Les Palestiniens r\u00eavent d&rsquo;en d\u00e9coudre avec des voisins \u00ab\u00a0infid\u00e8les non musulmans, l\u00e2ches et eff\u00e9min\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Il appartient aux Isra\u00e9liens de s&rsquo;en rendre compte et de les en dissuader p\u00e9riodiquement par une action punitive d&rsquo;envergure et surtout en ne montrant, \u00e0 aucun moment, une attitude de faiblesse (concession territoriale, transfert de fonds, acceptation de travailleurs, acceptation de construction illicite etc\u2026.). Le coma de Sharon a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9cisif dans le choix du Hamas par les Palestiniens, car Sharon \u00e9tait un personnage craint et sa disparition de la sc\u00e8ne politique a donn\u00e9 de nouvelles ailes au r\u00eave Palestinien d&rsquo;exp\u00e9dier les Isra\u00e9liens dans la mer M\u00e9diterran\u00e9e. Et le Hamas semblait le plus d\u00e9cid\u00e9 et le plus apte \u00e0 assouvir ce r\u00eave. <\/p>\n<p>De m\u00eame, une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 aveugl\u00e9e par les moteurs culturels de la \u00ab\u00a0honte subie\u00a0\u00bb et de \u00ab\u00a0l&rsquo;honneur \u00e0 d\u00e9fendre\u00a0\u00bb est \u00e0 la fois dangereuse pour elle-m\u00eame et pour les autres. Cette soci\u00e9t\u00e9 frustr\u00e9e rumine son humiliation et nourrit une psychose, pouvant aller jusqu&rsquo;au syndrome g\u00e9nocidaire. <\/p>\n<p>D&rsquo;un autre c\u00f4t\u00e9 les \u00ab\u00a0peacenik\u00a0\u00bb isra\u00e9liens subissent la culture de la culpabilit\u00e9, se sentent coupables d&rsquo;avoir inflig\u00e9 la d\u00e9faite et la honte \u00e0 leurs voisins et ils cherchent \u00e0 se r\u00e9dimer. Dans ce syndrome, certains vont jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 agir contre leur nation, leur famille et leurs propres int\u00e9r\u00eats.  <\/p>\n<p>Certains disent qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;aurait pas d\u00fb laisser un groupe terroriste se pr\u00e9senter \u00e0 des \u00e9lections d\u00e9mocratiques, car ceci est antinomique au sens v\u00e9ritable de la d\u00e9mocratie. Or le choix se situait entre deux groupes terroristes, l&rsquo;un avou\u00e9 le Hamas, l&rsquo;autre voil\u00e9 le Fatah. Pour les Palestiniens, le Hamas, qui a tu\u00e9 plus de 600 Isra\u00e9liens pendant l&rsquo;intifada, est l&rsquo;image du h\u00e9ros islamique lib\u00e9rateur. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9lu parce que les Palestiniens sont d&rsquo;accord avec ses objectifs: destruction d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, lutte contre la corruption, installation d&rsquo;une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9gie par la loi islamique. <\/p>\n<p>Le choix palestinien a \u00e9t\u00e9 guid\u00e9 par le fait qu&rsquo;\u00e0 ses yeux le Hamas repr\u00e9sente mieux le combat contre l&rsquo;occupant, du fait m\u00eame qu&rsquo;il est encore plus violent que le Fatah et qu&rsquo;il glorifie encore plus le \u00ab\u00a0martyr\u00a0\u00bb, le suicide. Rappelons que le Fatah au pouvoir cherchait \u00e0 montrer vis \u00e0 vis de l&rsquo;ext\u00e9rieur un visage plus conciliant ou plus mod\u00e9r\u00e9; d&rsquo;o\u00f9 une attitude globalement moins ouvertement engag\u00e9e dans la violence. <\/p>\n<p>Le probl\u00e8me aujourd&rsquo;hui est que certains Isra\u00e9liens ne veulent pas voir la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la situation qui empire et se voilent la face, par lassitude ou par manque d&rsquo;espoir. Il est \u00e9tonnant de comparer les propos du futur 1er ministre d&rsquo;un pays en guerre avec ceux d&rsquo;un Churchill pendant la derni\u00e8re guerre mondiale. <\/p>\n<p>Winston Churchill, 4 juin 1940, discours devant le Parlement britannique:  <\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Nous ne faiblirons pas et ne faillirons pas. Nous irons jusqu\u2019au bout. Nous combattrons en France et sur les mers et sur les oc\u00e9ans ; nous combattrons avec une confiance accrue et une force croissante dans les airs. Nous d\u00e9fendrons notre \u00eele quoiqu\u2019il en co\u00fbte; nous combattrons sur les plages, sur les terrains d\u2019atterrissage, dans les campagnes, dans les rues et sur les collines. Nous ne nous rendrons jamais et m\u00eame si, ce que je ne crois pas pour le moment, cette \u00eele ou un grande partie de celle-ci \u00e9tait soumise et affam\u00e9e, alors notre empire d\u2019outre-mer, arm\u00e9 et prot\u00e9g\u00e9 par la flotte britannique, m\u00e8nera le combat jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce que dans le temps voulu par D., le nouveau Monde avec toute son pouvoir et sa puissance, se mette en route pour la lib\u00e9ration et le secours de l\u2019Ancien Monde\u00a0\u00bb. <\/p>\n<p>Ehoud Olmert, 9 juin 2005, discours devant le Forum Politique d\u2019Isra\u00ebl \u00e0 New York: \u00ab\u00a0Nous sommes fatigu\u00e9s de nous battre, nous sommes fatigues d\u2019\u00eatre courageux, nous sommes fatigu\u00e9s de gagner, nous sommes fatigu\u00e9s de vaincre nos ennemis, nous voulons \u00eatre capables de vivre dans un environnement de relations totalement diff\u00e9rent avec nos ennemis\u00a0\u00bb   <\/p>\n<p>Levin dans son livre \u00ab\u00a0le Syndrome d&rsquo;Oslo, illusions d&rsquo;un peuple assi\u00e9g\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb explique bien  <\/p>\n<p>pourquoi certains Isra\u00e9liens, assi\u00e9g\u00e9s par les arabes depuis bient\u00f4t 60 ans, finissent par adopter le point de vue de l&rsquo;assi\u00e9geant. Le conflit du Moyen Orient est sp\u00e9cifiquement un conflit entre des r\u00e9sistances de volont\u00e9s. Et la plus grande menace pour Isra\u00ebl n&rsquo;est pas celle des armes ou des arm\u00e9es ennemies, mais celle de la capacit\u00e9 du citoyen \u00e0 r\u00e9sister au si\u00e8ge, \u00e0 l&rsquo;assaut de la propagande ennemie et \u00e0 son boycott moral.  <\/p>\n<p>On dit que la colombe pr\u00e9sente docilement son cou \u00e0 l&rsquo;abattoir, sans se r\u00e9volter par atavisme ou par passivit\u00e9 narcissique. Il n&rsquo;y a pas place en Isra\u00ebl pour un comportement suicidaire d&rsquo;une \u00ab\u00a0colombe\u00a0\u00bb qui se sent coupable des maux subis par les Palestiniens, qu&rsquo;ils se sont inflig\u00e9s \u00e0 eux-m\u00eames directement ou par le biais de chefs qu&rsquo;ils ont choisis.  <\/p>\n<p>Les Palestiniens sont des gens adultes responsables de leurs actes et pour lesquels il n&rsquo;y a aucune excuse \u00e0 trouver. Ils se sont engag\u00e9s d\u00e9lib\u00e9r\u00e9ment dans la voie de la guerre et ils m\u00e9ritent d&rsquo;en subir les cons\u00e9quences s&rsquo;ils persistent. <\/p>\n<p>Et vu la situation psychique de l&rsquo;adversaire, il ne reste pas de place ni \u00e0 l&rsquo;apaisement ni aux concessions. <\/p>\n<p>SYMPOSIUM: THE FALL OF PALESTINE  <\/p>\n<p>By Jamie Glazov &#8211; FrontPageMagazine.com | March 17, 2006  <\/p>\n<p>Hamas\u2019 recent stunning victory in the Palestinian parliamentary elections has forced the international community to face a precarious challenge. As the U.S. and Israel regroup to to deal with unapologetic Islamo-Fascists running Palestinian office, several pertinent questions beg analysis: (1) Why did the Palestinians utilize a democratic experiment to elect Islamo-Fascists? (2) Why are Israeli leftists using the occasion to paint the new rulers of Palestinians as forces of social justice?  <\/p>\n<p>To discuss these and other questions relating to Hamas\u2019 takeover of the Palestinian Authority, we have assembled a distinguished panel. Our guests today:   <\/p>\n<p>Kenneth Levin, a clinical instructor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, a Princeton-trained historian, and a commentator on Israeli politics. He is the author of the new book The Oslo Syndrome: Delusions of a People Under Siege. <\/p>\n<p>David Keyes, who assisted a former Israeli ambassador to the U.N. and specialized on terrorism at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. He recently returned from the Middle East where he co-authored academic papers with the former U.N. ambassador and the former head of Israeli military intelligence research and assessment. His latest paper, entitled \u201cAl-Qaeda Infiltration of Gaza: A Post-Disengagement Assessment\u201d was published by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.  <\/p>\n<p>And David Gutmann, Emeritus professor of Psychology and Behavioral Sciences at North-Western university Medical School, in Chicago. As a clinician, he has practiced and taught intensive psychotherapy. As a researcher, he has conducted psychological studies of the Galilean and the Golan Heights Druse, as well as the Bedouin of the Negev and Sinai deserts.  <\/p>\n<p>FP: David Keyes, Kenneth Levin and David Gutmann, welcome to Frontpage Symposium. <\/p>\n<p>David Gutmann, let\u2019s begin with you. <\/p>\n<p>In July 2000 in the Camp David talks, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians 95% of their negotiating demands, their own sovereign state in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, more than 90 percent of the West Bank, and a capital in Jerusalem.  <\/p>\n<p>Barak offered the Palestinians sovereignty over all Arab-populated parts of East Jerusalem, over all of the Old City except the Jewish Quarter, and over the Temple Mount, with Jewish sovereignty only over the Western Wall below the Mount.   <\/p>\n<p>The Palestinians had a chance to enter a new era of peace, with their own state, on incredibly generous terms.  <\/p>\n<p>They chose death. Yasser Arafat rewarded the Israelis for their offer by spawning another onslaught of gruesome terror \u2013 the al-Aqsa Intifada. <\/p>\n<p>Instead of choosing peace and their own state, the Palestinians decided it was a better idea to strap bombs onto their children and to send them into Israeli buses, caf\u00e9s and teenage discos to blow themselves up alongside innocent Jews.  <\/p>\n<p>On the pretence of the importance of killing Jews, the Palestinians began to kill themselves \u2013 along with Jews \u2013 in mass numbers. The choice had been made for self-annihilation over creation. Palestinian kids detonated themselves into smithereens while their parents cheered on in ecstasy from the sidelines, proud that their children had become \u201cshahids\u201d (martyrs). <\/p>\n<p>Then, as this madness ensued, we did all could to engender a democratic experiment among the Palestinians, hoping that democracy would free them from their addiction to mass death and suicide.  <\/p>\n<p>They finally got a democratic process. They took it and elected Islamo-Fascists. <\/p>\n<p>Let me ask you a two-fold question now:  <\/p>\n<p>(1) What pathologies spawn a death cult like this?  <\/p>\n<p>(2) Many on the Israeli Left have taken the occasion of the Hamas victory to paint Hamas &#8212; which has vowed to exterminate Jews &#8212; as some kind of social justice party that is concerned with peace and the common welfare. This is just as obscene as the psychology of Hamas itself. What gives here? <\/p>\n<p>Gutmann: In voting for Hamas, did the Palestinians opt for war and death, or for war and victory? I contend that they always opt for victory, but because their grandiosity leads to overconfidence and under-preparation, they end up with defeat.  <br \/>In &rsquo;47 an d &rsquo;48 the Palestinian leadership chose war instead of the state that the UN offered them in a partitioned Palestine. It was the wrong choice: it led to defeat and to the loss of the lands designated for their state. Nevertheless, their motives in going to war were murderous, not self-destructive: they had every reason to believe that they would win a war of extermination against a relative handful of under-armed Jews &#8211; the same \u00ab\u00a0Children of Death\u00a0\u00bb who had gone unresistingly to the gas chambers. <\/p>\n<p>And the Palestinians came pretty close to realizing this Holocaustic vision: a large proportion of Israel&rsquo;s precious younger generation had to die in order to stop them. <\/p>\n<p>Again, the Palestinians had good reason to be optimistic in the second round of their war against the Jews, when Arafat led them into the Al Aqsa Intifada. Then, Israeli society was split between rather ineffectual Hawks and Peace-At-Any-Price-Niks, and Israel&rsquo;s borders were terribly porous to suicide bombers who struck almost every day.  <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the Jewish state was condemned &#8211; also on a daily basis &#8211; by the UN, the Brits and the Europeans. Worst of all, the IDF had recently and for the first time run away from an enemy force: it had  bugged out of Southern Lebanon with Hezbollah right behind it, leaving weapons, intact military installations and unprotected Christian allies in its wake. <\/p>\n<p>Given this background, the Barak\/Clinton offer of East Jerusalem and almost all of the West Bank was not welcomed by Arafat as a token of  Israeli generosity, but as evidence of terminal Israeli weakness: \u00ab\u00a0The Jews are beaten, they are suing for peace. If Hezbollah could chase them out of Lebanon, then Allah willing my Fatah boys can chase them from all of Palestine.\u00a0\u00bb <br \/>It took the election of Sharon, Operation Defensive Shield, the PLO&rsquo;s crushing defeat at Jenin, and Arafat&rsquo;s house arrest in Ramallah to temporarily correct this grandiose, essentially paranoid delusion. But only for a short while: Islamic dreams of slaughtering a cowardly, effeminate enemy can be temporarily refuted by reality, but they die hard.   <\/p>\n<p>They flourish again when, in Arab eyes, the enemy reveals some shameful weakness.    <br \/>Churchill once said, \u00ab\u00a0The Hun is either at your feet or at your throat.\u00a0\u00bb Similarly with the Arabs; and I suggest that their oscillations between quiescence and ferocity are driven by the Shame\/Honor dynamic that is central to Arab psyche and Arab society. Shame and loss of honor, while toxic to the Arab, cannot be metabolized within the Arab self. Instead, the stigma must be ejected, spat out from the self, and downloaded onto lesser beings: women, defeated enemy, infidels and especially Jews. Once the weakness that originated in the Arab is discovered in the Other, then &#8211; symbolically or literally &#8211; he must be killed. <\/p>\n<p>The shamed enemy has come to represent some hated part of the Arab&rsquo;s persona, and Killing him is a substitute for suicide, for the killing of the self. This is the psychodrama that Zionist Jews and Arabs have been playing out in Palestine for almost a hundred years.   <\/p>\n<p>Most recently, having crushed the Second Intifada, Sharon trades Gaza, which is a liability, for the strategic West Bank settlements around Jerusalem that he intends to keep. These would be guarded behind the Security Wall &#8211; the barrier that will, in the absence of a negotiating partner, unilaterally define Israel&rsquo;s final boundaries. Sharon has drawn back the better to advance; but &#8211; particularly now that Sharon is comatose &#8211; Hamas spins Sharon&rsquo;s calculated disengagement into a great victory for their own gunmen: \u00ab\u00a0the Jews are running away from us. This is only the beginning: we will make them drown in the sea.\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>In it&rsquo;s turn, the Palestinian street sees in Hamas, the \u00ab\u00a0liberators\u00a0\u00bb of Gaza, the agents of final victory over Israel, and votes them into power. As in 1947 and 2001, the Palestinians smell blood in the water, indulge their triumphalist fantasies, and again choose the fever-dream of total victory over peace and statehood. They are by now so seriously addicted to Judeo-cidal Dreams that, like true junkies, they will pay almost anything &#8211; statehood, peace, the future of their children, life under Sharia law &#8211; in order to feed their habit. And in this hectic scenario, Hamas is the more reliable pusher. Again, the fantasied goals are murderous, destructive towards others; it is the Palestinian willingness to pay an exorbitant price for them that is self-destructive. <\/p>\n<p>Not all Palestinians share this genocidal syndrome. Some no doubt voted against  Fatah&rsquo;s corruption, while others elected for Hamas&rsquo; Welfare State (Hitler&rsquo;s wartime charity, Winter Hilfe, comes to mind). But for Hamas&rsquo; True Believers, why is the addiction to blood-drenched fantasy so powerful?  Why this overwhelming desire to see the Jews blown to pieces, terrified, and running?  Again, we must refer to the dynamics of shame: I saw the Palestinians abandon their villages in 1947 without a fight, even before we of the Israeli Hagana had enough guns or men to make them run.  Their resulting shame was compounded by their Arab \u00ab\u00a0brothers\u00a0\u00bb in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and egypt, who contemptuously shoved the dishonoured Palestinians into squalid camps. There, refugee kids grew up hearing taunts like these: \u00ab\u00a0You Palestinian whores who sold your land to the Jews, and then ran away! <\/p>\n<p>To repeat, Shame\/Honor societies cannot manage shame except by inflicting it back on the enemy who shamed them. Until that happens, the timeless sense of humiliation festers in the soul, and breeds Psychosis: Arab leaders still bristle at the word \u00ab\u00a0Crusade,\u00a0\u00bb and demand the return of Seville and Andaluz (Andalusia), since 1490 the \u00ab\u00a0occupied territories\u00a0\u00bb of Spain.  <\/p>\n<p>So of course the Palestinians will always sabotage &#8211; as they did in 1947, 2000 and now in 2006 \u2013 a negotiated peace with Israel. For the Palestinians, the only acceptable negotiating partners are Jews who mirror the Palestinians of &rsquo;47 and &rsquo;48 : defeated Jews, SHAMED Jews whose terrified mobs run like lemmings to the sea. Good faith negotiations with a still powerful, still undefeated Israel means living forever with the shame of NAQBA , and giving  up the wet-dream of a total, redemptive victory.  <\/p>\n<p>Thus far, the Palestinian addiction to such orgiastic visions has proven too strong to be broken. In some ways Israeli and American-Jewish peaceniks are even more pathological than the Palestinians: it is the former who exhibit motivated rather than incidental self-destructiveness.  <\/p>\n<p>If the Palestinians constitute a typical Shame\/Honor culture, then by contrast, Jews &#8211; especially Peaceniks &#8211; constitute a Guilt culture. The Arabs worry about what has been done to them by way of insults and humiliations; the Jews worry about has been done to others by them, or in their name. History is a tale of blood, and statehood  shoved the Jews back into history, into the middle of the battle, where the choices were to fight or die. The Israelis proved to be successful warriors, but many Jews &#8211; Israelis as well as Americans &#8211; have sickened of the killing, and are fashioning a separate peace. They have reached the point where they plead the enemy&rsquo;s cause against their own people, and ultimately against  their own children. Currently, they are starting to spin HAMAS as the wardens of a benign welfare state \u2013 Mother Teresa with a suicide belt. <br \/>The Palestinians won&rsquo;t be Shame-free until they have defeated the Jews; the Peacenik Jews won&rsquo;t be guilt-free until they have helped them do it. <\/p>\n<p>Keyes: Hamas\u2019 victory in the Palestinian election shatters the myth that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is driven by \u201ca small group of fanatics on both sides.\u201d  It has reaffirmed the existence of profound radicalism among the general Palestinian community.  The fact that a mass-murdering terrorist group was permitted to run in the first place was a disgrace to democracy.  Just as Nazis cannot run in German elections and al-Qaeda is not allowed to run in elections anywhere, so it should have been with Hamas.  In any case, the election was primarily a choice between two terrorist organizations\u2014Fatah and Hamas.   <\/p>\n<p>Hamas has killed about 600 Israelis, executed nearly half of the suicide-bombings from 2000-2005, colluded with al-Qaeda, and encouraged the defeat of America in Iraq.  Hamas couldn\u2019t be less of a legitimate \u201cresistance\u201d group if it tried; a mere two percent of its attacks have been aimed at military targets.  For these reasons and many more, Hamas\u2014like al-Qaeda\u2014must be utterly liquidated.   <\/p>\n<p>So why did the Palestinians elect this wretched organization?  To be sure, in part it was a rejection of the systemic cronyism and dysfunction of Fatah.  But Hamas\u2019 main goals since its founding have been the destruction of Israel in its entirety and the implementation of strict Islamic law.  Through hardly conducted in an environment of true tolerance or freedom, a majority of Palestinians have expressed solidarity with these goals through the ballot box.  At the very least, it can be said that Hamas\u2019 genocidal aims did not perturb the Palestinians enough to actually sway their vote.  Indeed, it is the Palestinian people who bear the responsibility for this latest calamity.  Even if the average German citizen\u2019s primary goal in the 1930s was not the eradication of the Jews, they clearly did not mind electing someone whose chief aim was exactly that.   <\/p>\n<p>Hamas\u2019 influence can be blamed in part on the nearly two decades of dictatorship and oppression under Arafat.  Tyranny augments fundamentalism as subjugated populations seek an escape from daily suffering and repression.  Totalitarianism and the absence of basic human freedoms are the well-spring of extremism and terror.  The rampant hate-speech spewed from Palestinian media and mosques have also have also fostered radicalism.  Palestinian children are told daily by their leaders, teachers, preachers, and in some cases even families, that martyrdom and suicide are heroic acts rewarded by eternal bliss.  The amazing thing is not that so many Palestinians have chosen to strap bombs to their chest to kill Jews, but that more have not.  From children\u2019s suicide-camps in Gaza to an-Najah University\u2019s glorified re-creation of a suicide bombing at an Israeli pizza parlor, generations of Palestinians have been indoctrinated into a cult of death.     <\/p>\n<p>As for any Israeli delusions of working with Hamas or moderating them, it can only be said that we have been here before.  So much of what is being said about Hamas today is exactly what was said of the PLO two decades ago.  Arafat was brought back from Tunis and needed only to sign a piece of paper renouncing terror.  He uttered a handful of hollow platitudes denouncing violence in English and the world went forth appeasing this murderous tyrant.  He became a frequent and honored guest at the White House.  Rabin even said that Arafat could fight terrorism with greater efficiency because he was not accountable to human rights organizations.  This was the warped mindset that led to the disaster of Oslo.  Meanwhile, Arafat never gave up his dream of destroying Israel and certainly never stopped funding suicide-bombers.  Emboldened by Israel\u2019s recent unilateral disengagement, Hamas promises to be even worse than Arafat.  The fact that Hamas provides social services to Palestinians should be about as relevant as if al-Qaeda handed out blankets to poor Afghanis after 9\/11.   <\/p>\n<p>But most Israelis are tired of fighting and will do nearly anything to end the conflict.   Israelis are a peace-seeking people who have been besieged by implacable enemies for so long that they simply want it to end.  Some on the Israeli left have craved peace so badly that they have become delusional in the process; they are willing to sign a deal with whoever has paper.  But overall, Israel has shown incredible tenacity in the face of seemingly endless terror.  Nevertheless, perhaps fatigue is taking a toll.  Consider the following two statements by leaders in a time of war:   <\/p>\n<p>Winston Churchill in 1940:  \u00ab\u00a0We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender\u2026\u201d   <\/p>\n<p>Ehud Olmert in 2005: \u00ab\u00a0We are tired of fighting, we are tired of being courageous, we are tired of winning, we are tired of defeating our enemies, we want that we will be able to live in an entirely different environment of relations with our enemies.\u00a0\u00bb <\/p>\n<p>That about says it all.   <\/p>\n<p>Levin: I agree with David Gutmann that the Palestinians&rsquo; pursuit of their terror war against Israel, and election of Hamas, are less suicidal than genocidal. I also agree with his comments on the psychodynamics underlying the Palestinians&rsquo;, and broader Arab world&rsquo;s, genocidal agenda, except that I would emphasize the role of Arab leaders in cultivating and channeling individuals&rsquo; psychodynamic predilections into murderous hatred toward perceived external enemies, most notable Jews. <\/p>\n<p>On the recent Palestinian election, there has been much debate as to whether votes for Hamas were votes against PA\/PLO corruption or for Hamas&rsquo;s exterminationist platform. But the distinction is based on a false premise in that &#8211; as David Keyes notes &#8211; the PA\/PLO likewise promoted an exterminationist platform, using its media, mosques and schools over the past decade to further indoctrinate Palestinians into embracing Jew-hatred and believing in the illegitimacy of Israel, the necessity of its annihilation, and its ripeness for destruction. <\/p>\n<p>As to Israelis, and western Jews, who ignore the other side&rsquo;s explicit agenda and replace it with fantasies of what they want the other side&rsquo;s agenda to be, fantasies that the Palestinians are simply asking for redress of supposed Israeli misbehavior and that sufficient concessions will end the conflict, they are the truly suicidal party, willing to risk their own lives and those of their children, their co-religionists and their countrymen for the sake of promoting their delusions. <\/p>\n<p>The chief voice in this camp, Yossi Beilin, said explicitly that he was not willing to live in a world in which existential problems &#8211; such as Palestinian hostility &#8211; cannot be solved, and he chose to solve it not by confronting the enemy but by prettifying him, risking the very survival of his nation for the sake of his fantasies. <\/p>\n<p>As I argue in my book, The Oslo Syndrome, embracing the perspectives of one&rsquo;s enemies is a common phenomenon within chronically besieged populations, whether minorities marginalized, denigrated and attacked by the surrounding society or small nations under chronic siege by their neighbors. It has been a recurrent theme in Jewish Diaspora history as well as in Israel. <\/p>\n<p>A major counterweight to the psychological corrosiveness of besiegement must be leaders who convey to the community its true choices and bolster its will to resist. The Israeli-Arab conflict is ultimately a test of wills in that Israel has and will retain the military capacity to defend itself &#8211; despite its small population, its lack of strategic depth, and the rabidness of its enemies. It is self-delusion and loss of heart to defend itself that is likely to remain its greatest threat. <\/p>\n<p>From this perspective, the 2005 statement by Ehud Olmert, cited by David Keyes, about Israelis being \u00ab\u00a0tired of fighting\u00a0\u00bb is an enormous dereliction of responsibility that, unless vigorously retracted, renders him unfit to lead the nation. <\/p>\n<p>The Israeli people&rsquo;s response to the terror war launched against them in September, 2000, demonstrated that it was the Oslo era leadership, not the people, that had psychologically capitulated and was no longer willing to fight those determined to destroy Israel. The nation deserves leaders capable of reinforcing the nation&rsquo;s will, as Churchill did for England, not undermining it.  <\/p>\n<p>Gutmann: At the outset of this symposium, Jamie asked us to comment on the Palestinian&rsquo;s \u00ab\u00a0death wish.\u00a0\u00bb But Dr. Levin, David Keyes and myself hold that the Palestinians have a death wish towards others, and that the truly suicidal version of Thanatos is lodged not in them, but in the Jewish Doves of Israel and the States. The Palestinians have no compunctions about killing: for them the act and its attendant fantasies have become eroticized &#8211; hence, addictive. They want to kill Jews so badly that they are willing to kill themselves in order to get at us.   <\/p>\n<p>Mr. Keyes and I agree that The Palestinians resemble the Germans under Hitler: convinced by him of their victimization at the hands of inferior enemies who did <br \/>not beat them fairly on the battlefield, the Germans poured their resulting \u00ab\u00a0Victim&rsquo;s Rage\u00a0\u00bb into various genocidal enterprises, including the Holocaust. Sharing similar delusions, the Palestinians turn their own version of Victim Rage against the Jew. <br \/>And as Mr. Keyes points out, too many Jews have become counterplayers in this psychodrama &#8211; enablers of the Arab psychosis. Guilty by nature, convinced of their own sins against the victimized multitude of third-world innocents, the Jewish Doves make the gestures of surrender. Turning the bared throat towards the knife they invite the Palestinians to punish them and their guilty nation for their sins. I grew up among Jews like these, and agree with Dr. Levin that they are the truly \u00ab\u00a0suicidal\u00a0\u00bb party.  While I&rsquo;m surprised to see them proliferate in Israel, I can understand them. What I don&rsquo;t understand is the passive response of so many European Christians, citizens of advanced Democracies, to the increasingly arrogant, murderous challenge that they face from the Eurabian Jihadists. Like their grandfathers who appeased Hitler, the European Doves find all kinds of reasons to spin and minimize the Jihadist fury that now openly mocks and threatens their comfortable lifeways. <\/p>\n<p>The appeaser&rsquo;s whimper, \u00ab\u00a0Just give Herr Hitler the Sudetenland, and that will be the end of his territorial demands\u00a0\u00bb is echoed today, vis-a-vis Hamas: \u00ab\u00a0Make those Jews give Hamas title to Jerusalem, allow the return of the &lsquo;Refugees&rsquo;, and the Palestinians will be happy democrats, participants in the comity of nations..\u00a0\u00bb  <\/p>\n<p>In the Christian case, I don&rsquo;t believe that \u00ab\u00a0Jewish\u00a0\u00bb guilt is the driving motive behind their covert surrender. Instead, I sense a kind of narcissistic passivity, which is much less treatable. Post-war affluence sponsored the \u00ab\u00a0Me\u00a0\u00bb generations \u2013 the narcissistic personality of our times, which is founded in the demand for personal gratification. The individual demands for sexual conquest and material acquisition are idealized, and the capacity to revere entities beyond the self &#8211; family, nation, heritage, great causes and inspiring leaders &#8211; is blunted. In effect, the Jihadists reverse this syndrome. Despite their psychopathology (or perhaps, because of it) they are quite ready, even eager, to lay down their lives for nation, heritage, religion and charismatic leaders. They are like the Japanese Kamikazes, the suicide pilots who almost destroyed our Pacific fleet at the end of WWII.  Confronted by God-obsessed Islam, the self-obsessed Europeans are finding all kinds of excuses to ignore and avoid the challenge. That kind of magical thinking did not work against Hitler and Tojo, and it won&rsquo;t work now. <\/p>\n<p>We face a long struggle. As Dr. Levin reminds us, in the absence of \u00ab\u00a0Churchillian\u00a0\u00bb leaders, it is one that we may not win.   <\/p>\n<p>Keyes: Dr. Levin is absolutely correct to highlight Yossi Beilin as a symbol of the deep denial of reality that permeates many on the Israeli left.  For Beilin, it seems, no moral red lines exist, whatsoever.  No person\u2014no matter how evil or corrupt\u2014is beyond empowering or negotiating with.  This is the only possible explanation as to how he could have openly called for releasing arch-terrorist Marwan Barghouti from prison in order to lead the Palestinian people.  There is an Arabic proverb which states \u201cStupidity is a disease without a medicine,\u201d and I think such words apply here.  The warped mentality that allows someone to advocate freeing and empowering a convicted murderer and terrorist mastermind, is in large part why peace eludes us today. It will take sharp moral clarity and Herculean will to defeat global irredentism and jihad; those who ascribe to Beilin\u2019s word-view, and learned not a whit from the mistakes of Oslo, certainly do not help in this fight.  <\/p>\n<p>Dr. Gutmann also raises important points regarding European appeasement.  Undoubtedly, this is not a new story as Europe has historically done more than its fair share of appeasing the most brutal leaders known to man.  In the modern sense, this means sending weapons and aid to the worst regimes on Earth.  Take one look at the oil contracts and weapons deals that many European countries had with Saddam up until his final moments as President of Iraq.  Add money skimmed from the UN Oil-For-Food program and it instantly becomes clear why certain nations were so adamantly opposed regime change in Iraq.  European oil money funding mass-murder in Iraq\u2014that was the real \u201cblood for oil,\u201d not America\u2019s campaign of liberation against a fascistic tyrant.  <\/p>\n<p>Russia and China, incidentally, are often even worse in the appeasement department than their European counter-parts.  Russia, for example, sends the government of Sudan, in the midst of their campaign of genocide in Darfur, the vast majority of its weapons.  &gt;From oil contracts in Iran to unceasing appeasement of Hamas, much of Europe and certainly Russia and China, actively subjugate democracy and aid the forces of tyranny and terror.  <\/p>\n<p>If there was any doubt as to who is an appeaser of terror, simply observe who invites Hamas into their capitals.  One by one, seemingly giddy at the prospect of defending yet another murderous terrorist group, Iran, Jordan, Russia, Turkey, and even South Africa, are granting Hamas political legitimacy and a platform from which to spew hateful rhetoric.  At a time when this unrepentant terrorist organization needs to be totally isolated and indeed destroyed, certain countries are welcoming their leaders with open arms.  Some even speak of sending financial aid to the government of Hamas-stan.  The lesson radical movements throughout the world are learning is that if you kill enough civilians (especially Jews) then you too can be invited as an honored guest to Ankara, Moscow and a host of other metropolitan capitals.  Who knows, you might even be funded by the European Union!  If radical jihad and terrorism are to be quashed, then precisely the opposite message must be sent.  Terror\u2014no matter what the grievance\u2014must never extract political concession. <\/p>\n<p>Levin: None of the genocidal forces that have created havoc in the Middle East and beyond in recent decades, not Saddam&rsquo;s regime in Iraq, or the Iranian mullahs, or the Sudanese leadership, or Arafat&rsquo;s PLO or the Palestinians&rsquo; Islamist alternatives, would have attained their capacity for mayhem had they not enjoyed the support of Western, most notably European, powers. The Europeans have indulged them first and foremost because to do so has been very lucrative. Profit consistently outweighed any potential concern for these forces&rsquo; victims, such as Iraq&rsquo;s Kurds or Sudan&rsquo;s blacks, and it appears that for many Europeans the murderous Palestinian assault on the Jews of Israel was not even a weak counterweight to the profit motive that drives indulgence of all things Arab but was rather an additional incentive to business as usual. <\/p>\n<p>Europe&rsquo;s cynicism has been reinforced by the narcissism described by Dr. Gutmann, a narcissism characterized by a focus on personal gratification and a perception of little beyond the personal as meaningful. This indifference to the world beyond one&rsquo;s self is distinct from the self-involvement found among the acolytes of the Israeli Left. In Israel, such narcissism is largely a cultivated stance with a long pedigree in the history of Jews seeking to detach themselves from a besieged Jewry. A common response among such souls has long been to ostentatiously declare themselves free of any identity beyond their individuality and so properly exempt from being the object of popular negative attitudes toward Jews. The narcissism rampant in Europe evolved in the context of an American security umbrella under which for half a century nothing significant was asked or expected of western Europe. <\/p>\n<p>A consequence of both the cynicism and the narcissism is that Europe has been prepared to see large numbers of people murdered elsewhere without feeling any need to rethink or refashion its policies. The question is how much mayhem will it require at home before there is an effective shift in policies. It is likely that the body count will have to be high and both the terror assault and the backlash will turn ugly at best before Europe fully sheds its torpor and fashions an effective response. If one looks for Churchillian leadership, it is hard to find in Europe today even the remnants of a cultural milieu that could produce a Churchill.  <\/p>\n<p>Given the realities of contemporary Europe, almost the entire burden for fighting the Islamofascist onslaught will continue to fall &#8211; as is all too obvious &#8211; on America. In view of the popularity of the politics of self-delusion even in America, it is yet to be seen how steadfast even the American effort will be; or, more precisely, how much will be lost before that steadfastness firmly asserts itself.  <\/p>\n<p>FP: David Keyes, Kenneth Levin and David Gutmann, thank you for joining Frontpage Symposium. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Girelle (Girelle) le mercredi 22 mars 2006 &#8211; 15h22: Nao, C&rsquo;est plus grave encore que vous ne pouvez le croire: Il ne reste presque plus de chr\u00e9tiens en France, et ceux qui ne portaient pas de chales \u00e9taient des convertis discrets. 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