{"id":57975,"date":"2017-04-09T18:22:06","date_gmt":"2017-04-09T18:22:06","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2017-04-09T18:22:06","modified_gmt":"2017-04-09T18:22:06","slug":"etmol-et-lah-ma-a-nya-haggada-tune-par-avraham-bar-shay-ben-attia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/etmol-et-lah-ma-a-nya-haggada-tune-par-avraham-bar-shay-ben-attia\/","title":{"rendered":"Etmol et Lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya, Haggada Tune &#8211; Par Avraham Bar-Shay (Ben-Attia)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><u>Etmol et Lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya, Haggada Tune<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>La Haggadah Tune commence par un paragraphe intitul\u00e9 \u00a0\u00bb Etmol\u2026\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp; tandis que toutes les autres&nbsp; Haggadahs (celles que je connais) commencent par \u00ab\u00a0Ha Lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya.\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp; Les paroles se ressemblent beaucoup. Alors pourquoi cette r\u00e9p\u00e9tition? Les autres communaut\u00e9s ne connaissent que le second paragraphe dans laquelle une phrase soulign\u00e9e en rouge n&rsquo;existe pas dans le premier.&nbsp; Cette phrase a peut-\u00eatre une certaine importance, elle dit \u00ab\u00a0CETTE ANNEE NOUS SOMMES ESCLAVES, L&rsquo;ANNEE PROCHAINE EN TERRE D&rsquo;ISRAEL\u2026 (pourtant, dans la phrase d&rsquo;avant, il y a la m\u00eame phrase sans rappeler l&rsquo;ESCLAVAGE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Quand et qui en sont les auteurs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"maguid\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"d137cb12-77a5-43a0-b9b4-dd62e7aefdfa\" src=\"\/news555\/sites\/default\/files\/inline-images\/MaguidDebutHagg.jpg\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Si l&rsquo;on regarde bien la derni\u00e8re phrase de \u00ab\u00a0Etmol (hier) nous \u00e9tions (au pass\u00e9) ESCLAVES\u00a0\u00bb, il est \u00e9crit&nbsp; \u00ab\u00a0.. cette ann\u00e9e ici, l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e prochaine en Terre d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, nous serons Libres\u00a0\u00bb.&nbsp; Dans toutes les autres Haggadahs (m\u00eame dans celle de Tunisie, ce qui vient apr\u00e8s Etmol),&nbsp; le paragraphe \u00ab\u00a0Ha lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya\u00a0\u00bb, o\u00f9 la derni\u00e8re phrase dit \u00ab\u00a0Cette ann\u00e9e ici (au pr\u00e9sent), nous sommes ESCLAVES, l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e prochaine en Terre d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, nous serons Libres\u00a0\u00bb.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"etmol\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"294bf922-b6fd-4936-8dd7-8e668f57291f\" src=\"\/news555\/sites\/default\/files\/inline-images\/etmol.jpg\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>La question est: quand et quel fut le paragraphe qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 ajout\u00e9 \u00e0 la Haggadah: Etmol ou Ha Lahma? L&rsquo;autre question est quelle en fut la raison?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>La question peut se poser autrement: Le paragraphe \u00ab\u00a0Etmol\u00a0\u00bb a-t-il exist\u00e9 auparavant et fut remplac\u00e9 plus tard par \u00ab\u00a0Ha lah&rsquo;ma\u2026\u00a0\u00bb? M\u00eame, si c&rsquo;\u00e9tait le cas, les tunisiens, eux, l&rsquo;ont aussi adopt\u00e9 et la Haggadah Tune nous montre les 2 paragraphes.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Il y a plusieurs autres petites diff\u00e9rences de rite, entre les textes des Haggadahs, des diff\u00e9rentes communaut\u00e9s.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>En r\u00e9sum\u00e9, je pense que ces questions auraient une importance de par la priorit\u00e9 dans la location du paragraphe: il ouvre la lecture de la Haggadah et de par le temps de&nbsp; \u00ab\u00a0l&rsquo;esclavage\u00a0\u00bb par rapport \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9poque durant laquelle le paragraphe a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9crit. Si on raconte une histoire qui est arriv\u00e9e au pass\u00e9 ou bien si c&rsquo;est ce qui se passe, maintenant, CETTE ANNEE (hashatta hakha).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ce probl\u00e8me est un peu intriguant, je n&rsquo;ai pas trouv\u00e9 de r\u00e9ponse, alors si quelqu&rsquo;un pouvait m&rsquo;instruire, je lui serai reconnaissant, j&rsquo;avais quand m\u00eame essay\u00e9 diff\u00e9rentes hypoth\u00e8ses. Celle que je voudrais retenir serait celle qui renforcerait la th\u00e9orie de l&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e des juifs en Tunisie (Ifriqiya) aux temps du deuxi\u00e8me Temple, et que le paragraphe \u00ab\u00a0Etmol\u00a0\u00bb \u00e9tait le seul qui existait.<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>&nbsp;Sous l&rsquo;Empire Romain, les Juifs&nbsp; ont conjugu\u00e9 le texte de l&rsquo;esclavage au temps pr\u00e9sent,&nbsp; les Juifs de Tunisie, aussi, mais en deuxi\u00e8me place, pour d\u00e9buter la Haggadah, ils ont gard\u00e9 l&rsquo;histoire de l&rsquo;esclavage du pass\u00e9. Peut-\u00eatre par respect pour leurs Hakhamim, ils avaient gard\u00e9 le paragraphe de \u00ab\u00a0Ha Lah&rsquo;ma\u00a0\u00bb.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Avraham Bar-Shay (Ben-Attia)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong><a href=\"mailto:absf@netvision.net.il\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>absf@netvision.net.il<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Etmol et Lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya, Haggada Tune &nbsp; La Haggadah Tune commence par un paragraphe intitul\u00e9 \u00a0\u00bb Etmol\u2026\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp; tandis que toutes les autres&nbsp; Haggadahs (celles que je connais) commencent par \u00ab\u00a0Ha Lah&rsquo;ma A&rsquo;nya.\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp; Les paroles se ressemblent beaucoup. Alors pourquoi cette r\u00e9p\u00e9tition? Les autres communaut\u00e9s ne connaissent que le second paragraphe dans laquelle une phrase soulign\u00e9e&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":57976,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-57975","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Etmol et Lah&#039;ma A&#039;nya, Haggada Tune - Par Avraham Bar-Shay (Ben-Attia) | HARISSA.COM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Etmol et Lah&#039;ma A&#039;nya, Haggada Tune &nbsp; 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