{"id":65907,"date":"2021-09-26T17:45:08","date_gmt":"2021-09-26T17:45:08","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2021-09-26T17:45:08","modified_gmt":"2021-09-26T17:45:08","slug":"debat-zemmour-melenchon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harissa.com\/news-wp\/debat-zemmour-melenchon\/","title":{"rendered":"D\u00e9bat Zemmour &#8211; M\u00e9lenchon"},"content":{"rendered":"<header>\n<p>D\u00e9bat Zemmour &#8211; M\u00e9lenchon&nbsp;: immigration, islam&#8230; Des \u00e9changes tendus, les temps forts<\/p>\n<\/header>\n<div id=\"jArticleInside\">\n<p class=\"app_entry_lead\"><a class=\"fancy\" href=\"https:\/\/img-4.linternaute.com\/u6vBCSBJMEf4Y7O-1ozRbwujo1I=\/1500x\/smart\/931a21c5ec9245fdb661c969c496ebcb\/ccmcms-linternaute\/28193761.jpg\" title=\"\u00a0\u00a9\u00a0JEANNE ACCORSINI\/SIPA\"><picture data-insertor-excluded=\"1\"><source data-insertor-excluded=\"1\" height=\"360\" media=\"(max-width: 480px)\" srcset=\"https:\/\/img-4.linternaute.com\/PzQIL913DmBWvnXd7q-aOPtcFbA=\/540x\/smart\/931a21c5ec9245fdb661c969c496ebcb\/ccmcms-linternaute\/28193761.jpg\" width=\"540\" \/><\/picture><\/a>Sans grande surprise, le d\u00e9bat entre le candidat \u00e0 la pr\u00e9sidentielle Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon et le pol\u00e9miste Eric Zemmour a \u00e9t\u00e9 le th\u00e9\u00e2tre d&rsquo;\u00e9changes tendus sur plusieurs sujets. Le r\u00e9sum\u00e9<\/p>\n<p>D\u00e8s les premi\u00e8res secondes du d\u00e9bat, Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon a indiqu\u00e9 vouloir \u00e9viter une \u00ab\u00a0guerre de coqs\u00a0\u00bb, mais d\u00e8s les premi\u00e8res minutes, c&rsquo;est le candidat de la France insoumise qui a attaqu\u00e9&nbsp;Eric Zemmour le qualifiant de \u00ab\u00a0danger pour la France\u00a0\u00bb avec une vision&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0rabougrie\u00a0\u00bb avant de rappeler sa condamnation pour racisme. Ne se laissant pas faire, le pol\u00e9miste a imm\u00e9diatement r\u00e9torqu\u00e9.&nbsp;Vous avez une conception de la d\u00e9mocratie qui n&rsquo;est pas la mienne.&nbsp;Depuis deux si\u00e8cles dans votre camp on ne d\u00e9bat pas, on guillotine.\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" id=\"ctn_native_atf\" style=\"\">\n<div data-google-query-id=\"CO_Ypf2YnfMCFQGHpwodrWENcQ\" id=\"ba_native_atf\" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"google_ads_iframe_\/31695825\/linternaute\/web_desktop_nos\/desktop_fr_linternaute_actualite_politique_cms_native_atf_0__container__\" style=\"border: 0pt none; margin: auto; text-align: center; visibility: visible; min-width: 100%;\">BFM TV avait organis\u00e9 ce d\u00e9bat sur plusieurs th\u00e8mes. Le premier, assez attendu, \u00e9tait le terrain de jeu d&rsquo;Eric Zemmour,&nbsp;&nbsp;l&rsquo;immigration. \u00ab\u00a0Nous avons donn\u00e9 les droits de la politique d&rsquo;immigration aux immigr\u00e9s. Ce sont eux qui choisissent qui vient, qui ne vient pas&nbsp;: le fils, la m\u00e8re, la femme, le cousin\u2026\u00a0\u00bb explique dans un premier temps le pol\u00e9miste avant de s&rsquo;attaquer \u00e0 l&rsquo;Islam. \u00ab\u00a0Les gens comme Monsieur M\u00e9lenchon et les \u00e9lites fran\u00e7aises ont fait la folie de laisser venir des millions et des millions d&rsquo;immigr\u00e9s venus d&rsquo;une civilisation arabo-musulmane qui sont hostiles \u00e0 notre civilisation jud\u00e9o chr\u00e9tienne (&#8230;)&nbsp;L&rsquo;islam est une religion politique par essence. Elle ne s&rsquo;occupe pas de l&rsquo;int\u00e9riorit\u00e9 des fid\u00e8les mais des normes sociales et politiques. L&rsquo;islam est une religion qui concurrence le code civil,&nbsp;(\u2026)&nbsp;qui n&rsquo;est pas compatible avec la France.\u00a0\u00bb Absolument pas d&rsquo;accord avec les propos, Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon pr\u00e9f\u00e8re parler de \u00ab\u00a0cr\u00e9olisation de la France&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0. Pour le candidat,&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0nous sommes le pays qui pratique depuis le plus longtemps une forme de cr\u00e9olisation assum\u00e9e, c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire la cr\u00e9ation d&rsquo;une culture commune de gens qui se trouvent au m\u00eame endroit\u00a0\u00bb.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" id=\"ctn_infeed\" style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"ccminsert\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\" style=\"display: flex; max-width: 550px; width: 100%; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;\"><iframe allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowtransparency=\"true\" data-tweet-id=\"1441124247506587659\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"twitter-widget-0\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/Tweet.html?dnt=false&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-0&amp;features=eyJ0ZndfZXhwZXJpbWVudHNfY29va2llX2V4cGlyYXRpb24iOnsiYnVja2V0IjoxMjA5NjAwLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X2hvcml6b25fdHdlZXRfZW1iZWRfOTU1NSI6eyJidWNrZXQiOiJodGUiLCJ2ZXJzaW9uIjpudWxsfSwidGZ3X3NwYWNlX2NhcmQiOnsiYnVja2V0Ijoib2ZmIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6bnVsbH19&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1441124247506587659&amp;lang=fr&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linternaute.com%2Factualite%2Fpolitique%2F2571848-debat-zemmour-melenchon-immigration-islam-des-echanges-tendus-les-temps-forts%2F&amp;sessionId=2e129000a97a43c42fbaa147bc9e94456e0220b9&amp;siteScreenName=LInternauteInfo&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=1890d59c%3A1627936082797&amp;width=550px\" style=\"position: static; visibility: visible; width: 550px; height: 600px; display: block; flex-grow: 1;\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Sur l&rsquo;ins\u00e9curit\u00e9, Eric Zemmour a point\u00e9 du doigt le djihad. \u00ab\u00a0Pour moi, la d\u00e9linquance que nous vivons n&rsquo;est pas une d\u00e9linquance, c&rsquo;est un djihad.&nbsp;C&rsquo;est une guerre de civilisation qui nous est men\u00e9e, une guerre de pillages, une guerre de viols, une guerre de meurtres\u00a0\u00bb. De son c\u00f4t\u00e9, Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon a profit\u00e9 de cette occasion pour mettre avant plusieurs points de son programme pour la pr\u00e9sidentielle 2022. \u00ab\u00a0On a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 couper la police de la population. Je veux une police respectueuse des gens\u00a0\u00bb a-t-il lanc\u00e9. Pendant pr\u00e8s d&rsquo;une heure, les deux candidats se sont \u00e9charp\u00e9s sur cette discussion de l&rsquo;immigration et de l&rsquo;ins\u00e9curit\u00e9, de nombreuses passes d&rsquo;armes se sont d\u00e9roul\u00e9es avant que le candidat de la France insoumise parle de \u00ab\u00a0Zemmouristan\u00a0\u00bb pour qualifier les propos de son adversaire du soir. \u00ab\u00a0Un pays o\u00f9 les femmes sont rabaiss\u00e9es, o\u00f9 il y a la peine de mort, o\u00f9 les homosexuels sont punis\u2026 (&#8230;) le Zemmouristan, \u00e7a existe&nbsp;\u00a0\u00bb et \u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;\u00e7a s&rsquo;appelle l&rsquo;Arabie saoudite. Notons qu&rsquo;\u00e0 la fin de cette premi\u00e8re partie, les deux hommes se sont mis d&rsquo;accord sur un point, l&rsquo;Otan.&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0Je pense que nous devrions sortir de cette alliance militaire pour que la France r\u00e9cup\u00e8re totalement son ind\u00e9pendance\u00a0\u00bb a lanc\u00e9 Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon ce que Zemmour a r\u00e9pondu \u00ab\u00a0Je suis tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord avec le d\u00e9but de ce qu&rsquo;\u00e0 dit Monsieur M\u00e9lenchon. L&rsquo;Otan aurait d\u00fb se dissoudre quand l&rsquo;URSS a disparu, nous sommes tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord sur ce point.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" id=\"ctn_native_mtf\" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"ba_native_mtf\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Sur les autres sujets o\u00f9 Eric Zemmour n&rsquo;a jamais trop d\u00e9taill\u00e9 ses ambitions ni ses convictions, le pol\u00e9miste a fait valoir ses arguments. Sur la fracture sociale, l&rsquo;ancien journaliste&nbsp;s&rsquo;en est pris \u00e0 l&rsquo;Etat-providence fran\u00e7ais, qu&rsquo;il a qualifi\u00e9 d'\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;ob\u00e8se&nbsp;\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;:&nbsp;\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;Le mod\u00e8le social a renonc\u00e9 \u00e0 ces deux principes&nbsp;: lier les contributions au travail et nous sommes pass\u00e9s d&rsquo;un syst\u00e8me de r\u00e9partition \u00e0 un syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;assistanat.&nbsp;\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;Il souhaite notamment&nbsp;\u00a0\u00bb&nbsp;r\u00e9duire les imp\u00f4ts et les charges sociales. Enfin, sur l&rsquo;environnement, les deux protagonistes n&rsquo;ont toujours pas trouv\u00e9 un terrain d&rsquo;entente. Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon veut&nbsp;<em>abandonner&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0<\/em>&nbsp;le nucl\u00e9aire dans les prochaines ann\u00e9es. Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 des Bouches-du-Rh\u00f4ne souhaite \u00ab\u00a0d\u00e9ployer l&rsquo;hydro\u00e9lectrique, red\u00e9ployer les hydroliennes, l&rsquo;\u00e9nergie g\u00e9othermique et am\u00e9liorer la sobri\u00e9t\u00e9 dans la consommation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique. \u00c7a va mettre au travail des dizaines de milliers de gens\u00a0\u00bb alors qu&rsquo;Eric Zemmour ne veut pas abandonner&nbsp;cette \u00e9nergie nucl\u00e9aire. \u00ab\u00a0Abandonner le nucl\u00e9aire, c&rsquo;est abandonner notre souverainet\u00e9 nationale\u00a0\u00bb a-t-il lanc\u00e9 \u00e9voquant \u00e9galement tout le mal qu&rsquo;il pense des \u00e9oliennes.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" id=\"ctn_position3\" style=\"\">\n<div id=\"ba_position3\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h2><a data-insertor-excluded=\"1\" id=\"video\" name=\"video\">Le d\u00e9bat en vid\u00e9o<\/a><\/h2>\n<div class=\"ccminsert\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"314\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/video.php?height=314&amp;href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FBFMTV%2Fvideos%2F862153127838157%2F&amp;show_text=false&amp;width=560&amp;t=0\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" width=\"560\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<h2><a data-insertor-excluded=\"1\" id=\"sondages-melenchon-zemmour\" name=\"sondages-melenchon-zemmour\">Quels sont les r\u00e9sultats des&nbsp;sondages pour Zemmour et pour M\u00e9lenchon ?<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>Le d\u00e9bat entre les deux hommes intervient alors que les derniers sondages les donnent au coude \u00e0 coude. La derni\u00e8re \u00e9tude Harris Interactive pour Challenges les cr\u00e9ditent tous les deux de 11% des intentions de vote. Odoxa donne m\u00eame ce jeudi 23 septembre Eric Zemmour devant son rival (10% contre 8%).&nbsp;Il est toutefois notable qu&rsquo;Eric Zemmour b\u00e9n\u00e9ficie d&rsquo;une dynamique certaine dans l&rsquo;opinion, puisqu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait donn\u00e9 aux alentours de 5% dans les premiers sondages. Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon, quant \u00e0 lui, demeure depuis des mois sur un plateau oscillant entre&nbsp;8&nbsp;\u00e0 12%. Rappelons que la campagne n&rsquo;a pas encore vraiment commenc\u00e9.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ads--insertor-casper\" style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div class=\"ccminsert\"><iframe frameborder=\"no\" id=\"iFrameResizer0\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.contexte.com\/apps\/2021\/03-presi-polls\/front\/index.html?mode=light&amp;candidates=m%C3%A9lenchon%7Czemmour\" style=\"margin-top: 2em; margin-bottom: 2em; width: 1px; min-width: 100%; overflow: hidden; height: 874px;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<h2><a data-insertor-excluded=\"1\" id=\"amis-anniversaire-zemmour\" name=\"amis-anniversaire-zemmour\">Eric Zemmour et Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon sont-ils amis ?<\/a><\/h2>\n<p>Le patron de la France insoumise a tenu \u00e0 se justifier, le 21 septembre, sur LCI.&nbsp;\u00ab\u00a0Je vis ce d\u00e9bat comme un combat\u00a0\u00bb, a-t-il avanc\u00e9, rappelant qu&rsquo;il conna\u00eet le pol\u00e9miste depuis des d\u00e9cennies. Les deux hommes ont m\u00eame par le pass\u00e9 entretenu des relations tr\u00e8s cordiales &#8211; voire amicales &#8211; jusqu&rsquo;au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 2010. Selon Lib\u00e9ration, Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon \u00e9tait m\u00eame en 2008 \u00e0 la soir\u00e9e d&rsquo;anniversaire d&rsquo;Eric Zemmour. Pour le patron des Insoumis toutefois, leurs rapports ont radicalement chang\u00e9 il y a des ann\u00e9es. \u00ab\u00a0Je l&rsquo;ai connu brillant commentateur (\u2026) et puis je l&rsquo;ai vu s&rsquo;effondrer (\u2026) il a une id\u00e9e de l&rsquo;histoire de France qui est sectaire\u00a0\u00bb, a ainsi insist\u00e9 Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon sur LCI, consid\u00e9rant&nbsp;qu&rsquo;Eric Zemmour et ses soutiens sont \u00ab\u00a0des&nbsp;gens qui propagent une doctrine qui conduit \u00e0 la violence\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D\u00e9bat Zemmour &#8211; M\u00e9lenchon&nbsp;: immigration, islam&#8230; Des \u00e9changes tendus, les temps forts Sans grande surprise, le d\u00e9bat entre le candidat \u00e0 la pr\u00e9sidentielle Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon et le pol\u00e9miste Eric Zemmour a \u00e9t\u00e9 le th\u00e9\u00e2tre d&rsquo;\u00e9changes tendus sur plusieurs sujets. Le r\u00e9sum\u00e9 D\u00e8s les premi\u00e8res secondes du d\u00e9bat, Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon a indiqu\u00e9 vouloir \u00e9viter une \u00ab\u00a0guerre&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":65908,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-65907","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>D\u00e9bat Zemmour - M\u00e9lenchon | HARISSA.COM<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"D\u00e9bat Zemmour - M\u00e9lenchon&nbsp;: immigration, islam... 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